This I Believe There is / is not a God

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

Up until now I have made less then 10 to 15 posts about religion in this site.

You have made 20 posts in this thread. That's, what, 60% of your post count? When you figure in the fact that all your other posts have virtually no content I would say about 99% of all the writing you've done on MB has been about religion.

~~Dirty~~ · 02-14-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Introvox

Yes, my friend, that would be totally correct.

It is I.....Muzoid, at your service. *takes a bow*

I was kindly re-welcomed by a mod here, and invited to take part in the community.

Isn't that wonderful?

Yeah I hope so. My initial impression of you was immature douchebag, but hopefully I was wrong.

Maccabbe, can I ask you why you keep bringing up porn? What is so wrong about it and why do you hate it?

Howard the Duck · 02-14-2011, 10:46 PM

^^to the best of my experience, it reduces rape

PinkCigarette · 02-14-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

Up until now I have made less then 10 to 15 posts about religion in this site.
I have not called anyone any bad name, or used any dirty language, or insulted anyone on a personal manner, please check out all my comments on this thread, and see if I speak the truth or not.

What in the world are you talking about?

In your site, you have sat on the sidelines while people were mobbing around me and calling me Kike and other Anti Semitic diatribes, and you have done nothing to stop them, nothing.

Yet you got the nerve to blame me for everything?

Do you got no shame?

You didn’t have one outspoken religious and creationist person in your website, and when I came, you let the mob shred me to pieces. Even one true creationist was too much for you to bare.

So much for fairness and equal opportunity to all…

As to the discussion , you said :"Religion has nothing to do with anything you talk about. It's PEOPLE who make these decisions".

You don’t mean to suggest that religion supports the awful and devastating way of life of porn and drugs and all these negative things, or to suggest that religion is the cause of all of these things?

What set the ground for all these horrible things to come to reality?

The casting down the Yoke of Heaven to the ground, nothing else.

If people followed the will of God as God wanted, all of these horrible things wouldn’t come to reality.

When a person believes that there is no reward or punishment and that he comes from the apes, why should he care if he becomes a porn star or not? or become a thief or not, or a murderer or not?

Secular Humanism?

We all know what subjective humanism can do, it can support those who they seem are worthy and neglect those who they don’t care for.

Morality needs to be heavenly sanctioned, for objectivity to take place.

If you are going to re-tell something that happened, please be honest about it. A number of people were banned from the thread, BY ME, including YOU, because you complained that they insulted what you believed in yet YOU DID THE SAME TO THEM. The proof of my stance on religion is in my posts. I openly admit to being atheist but I have stood up for religious beliefs because I have been surrounded by religious people my entire life so I have some education on why people believe certain things. Infact, as we speak, I am DEFENDING the argument that because God has power and 'knows all', why doesn't he jump in and stop things from happening, so don't tell lies. I do NOT tolerate people being douchebags. If people were being morons in the thread and were not told about it, excuse me for having a life and not being online 24/7 to babysit everyone. The staff has told people many times to use the report button. We try to sift through as much as we can but if you don't help us by reporting it, it is very easy to miss, especially in a fast moving thread about religion. I figured a 34 year old man would be able to refrain from insulting 16 and 17 year olds.

Enough with the MF garbage, we are here at MB. If you want to complain about the ban you earned yourself, feel free to PM me to discuss it. Otherwise, you did it to yourself, move on. You were not the only person punished, get over it.

Again, a person's religion has nothing to do with the things you are talking about. If you seriously think a religious person does not participate in the things you are mentioning, you're just being ignorant.

Introvox · 02-14-2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

Yeah I hope so. My initial impression of you was immature douchebag, but hopefully I was wrong.

Maccabbe, can I ask you why you keep bring up porn? What is so wrong about it and why do you hate it?

Awww, how lovely.

But you will soon see the real me...one hellova nice/fun guy, with loads of musical knowledge.

But, of course, I will leave that judgement up to you.

...did someone say Porn?

~~Dirty~~ · 02-14-2011, 11:19 PM

Hey mods, why was Maccabbe banned?

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

Hey mods, why was Maccabbe banned?

Self-promotion, post-slutting and, in the end, failure to cooperate with mod requests regarding his rule violations.

Howard the Duck · 02-15-2011, 04:36 AM

^^ what a shame, he was a source of endless hilarity

s_k · 02-15-2011, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

So, if you're not posting to add to the discussion, but only to join the mob in ridiculing a religious poster, then I think you should reconsider before clicking the submit button. This is a discussion thread and if you think arguments truly are idiotic, then it should be easy for you to counter them with reason.

Altough you are actually completely right and I'm sorry for getting carried away, end of the story is that Maccabe was really going nowhere...
But yeah, you're right. I should stay out of this topic alltogether because I just cannot, as much as I want to, have respect or understanding for people who are seriously religious and want to project that onto others.

Edit: Just notice there's been three pages of... stuff... between Tore's posting and this one. My reply may be a bit too late. If it's considered bad form, feel free to delete it mods

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PurpleWolf · 02-15-2011, 06:01 AM

I was once a hardcore christian, not a fundie but dedicated.
Up until I got into a conversation about religion with an older man.
And, despite all religions faults and problems, it gives people a sense of purpose and a set of morals and ethics to follow. It gives people friends, an external family, and a goal on how to live their lives. I would not be surprised if religious people died more content than non-religious people simply due to the fact that they feel they have accomplished something, whether that something is fake or real.

Besides religion has pretty much got me through my childhood, in which I was constantly moving countries or cities, constantly alone and dealing with **** that my father dealt out to me.
When I gave up religion, one of the few things I realized was that life is pointless; you get born, live a short life (which consists of a childhood were you are controlled by your parents then 12 years of schooling, maybe higher learning followed by 40-50 years of working for our two bitches, money and society before finally becoming too old to be of any use to anyone, except verbally) and then die. Another thing I realized is that religion makes peoples lives easier and safer. The Western world is built on christianity and is a fairly accepting and safe society, imagine if instead it was built on the Aztec religion or Islam?

Religion plays its part in the world and the majority of believers do make the world a better place for us all (not saying non-believers don't either).
But in the end, once you know religion is a facade then you might as well move on and create a life worth living for yourself.
That is my goal in life, to live a life were I can die content, knowing that I did what I wanted to do in life and through my actions, I changed the world. (I believe that everyone is connected somehow. I am speculating that there is a sort of collective 'will' or 'desire' that binds the universe together, every person is somehow connected through this 'will'. Perhaps it is a desire to exist on a higher level that holds the universe together, and perhaps the next level for us is a spiritual level. My opinion, feel free to add your 5 cents.)
I also believe in the Chaos Theory or Butterfly Effect, were a tiny action can cause a chain of reactions that results in the entire world being effected. If I had not bothered to post this then perhaps you would never of heard about it and lived an alternate life, thus changing all your actions and eventually changing the people around you.
Food for thought =]

Peace,
PurpleWolf

02-15-2011, 06:01 AM	#850 (permalink)
PurpleWolf Groupie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 44	I was once a hardcore christian, not a fundie but dedicated. Up until I got into a conversation about religion with an older man. And, despite all religions faults and problems, it gives people a sense of purpose and a set of morals and ethics to follow. It gives people friends, an external family, and a goal on how to live their lives. I would not be surprised if religious people died more content than non-religious people simply due to the fact that they feel they have accomplished something, whether that something is fake or real. Besides religion has pretty much got me through my childhood, in which I was constantly moving countries or cities, constantly alone and dealing with **** that my father dealt out to me. When I gave up religion, one of the few things I realized was that life is pointless; you get born, live a short life (which consists of a childhood were you are controlled by your parents then 12 years of schooling, maybe higher learning followed by 40-50 years of working for our two bitches, money and society before finally becoming too old to be of any use to anyone, except verbally) and then die. Another thing I realized is that religion makes peoples lives easier and safer. The Western world is built on christianity and is a fairly accepting and safe society, imagine if instead it was built on the Aztec religion or Islam? Religion plays its part in the world and the majority of believers do make the world a better place for us all (not saying non-believers don't either). But in the end, once you know religion is a facade then you might as well move on and create a life worth living for yourself. That is my goal in life, to live a life were I can die content, knowing that I did what I wanted to do in life and through my actions, I changed the world. (I believe that everyone is connected somehow. I am speculating that there is a sort of collective 'will' or 'desire' that binds the universe together, every person is somehow connected through this 'will'. Perhaps it is a desire to exist on a higher level that holds the universe together, and perhaps the next level for us is a spiritual level. My opinion, feel free to add your 5 cents.) I also believe in the Chaos Theory or Butterfly Effect, were a tiny action can cause a chain of reactions that results in the entire world being effected. If I had not bothered to post this then perhaps you would never of heard about it and lived an alternate life, thus changing all your actions and eventually changing the people around you. Food for thought =] Peace, PurpleWolf Attached Thumbnails

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Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	^^to the best of my experience, it reduces rape

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~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	Hey mods, why was Maccabbe banned?

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Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	^^ what a shame, he was a source of endless hilarity