This I Believe There is / is not a God

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

Virtually every single website that I had the chance to visit, I encountered the same story...

Funny, because I think literally every forum I've ever been to there are always a certain number of religious people there who do very little except preach at other people. And you know what? It's not even restricted to the internet, these people try to push their religion on others in every possible venue: on television and on radio and on street corners and on subway cars, hell even at my front door. Can't say I've ever encountered any atheists doing that.

XSmokeXScreen · 02-14-2011, 09:54 PM

Try that again Maccabbe(sp?) and try actually thinking about it from a third party, unbiased, perspective. Try learning things about other religions before trying to blame others for your ignorance.

~~Maccabbe~~ · 02-14-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Funny, because I think literally every forum I've ever been to there are always a certain number of religious people there who do very little except preach at other people. And you know what? It's not even restricted to the internet, these people try to push their religion on others in every possible venue: on television and on radio and on street corners and on subway cars, hell even at my front door. Can't say I've ever encountered any atheists doing that.

Judaism is not a religion that looks to convert people, we actually try to push people away when they want to convert to our faith, but if they are persistent and are doing this with love and dedication for the right reasons, then we accept them, and even that can take years, so its not so simple at all.

I'm not trying to preach or to convert people, all I'm doing is saying that God exists, and that's what I believe and that's how I see the world.

I understand that some wont agree with this world outlook, but that's perfectly fine.

Now lets see and compare what the regular Joe encounters more in the street or anywhere else in his life, religion or atheism.

The Web = 80% porn

The Street = women walking almost naked, in the most revealing manner possible.

T.V = Filled with shows about sex, drugs, violence, abuse, evolution, religion bashing and the brutal media that pushes atheism on people at every given chance.

Universities = Sex parties, drugs, Evolution , global warming nonsense, and the list goes on...

Magazines and Newspapers = Sex, drugs, gossip, anti religious propaganda, nonsense, character assassinations, and so on.

All the above are the 'honorable' fruits of the godless atheism movement.

So please, there is no need to blame religion for what atheism has done and continues to do.

~~Maccabbe~~ · 02-14-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XSmokeXScreen

Try that again Maccabbe(sp?) and try actually thinking about it from a third party, unbiased, perspective. Try learning things about other religions before trying to blame others for your ignorance.

This is a perfect example of a pointless remark made to inflame and insult and contribute nothing to the discussion.

Introvox · 02-14-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

The Web = 80% porn

That why I got internet in the first place

PinkCigarette · 02-14-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

Judaism is not a religion that looks to convert people, we actually try to push people away when they want to convert to our faith, but if they are persistent and are doing this with love and dedication for the right reasons, then we accept them, and even that can take years, so its not so simple at all.

I'm not trying to preach or to convert people, all I'm doing is saying that God exists, and that's what I believe and that's how I see the world.

I understand that some wont agree with this world outlook, but that's perfectly fine.

Now lets see and compare what the regular Joe encounters more in the street or anywhere else in his life, religion or atheism.

The Web = 80% porn

The Street = women walking almost naked, in the most revealing manner possible.

T.V = Filled with shows about sex, drugs, violence, abuse, evolution, religion bashing and the brutal media that pushes atheism on people at every given chance.

Universities = Sex parties, drugs, Evolution , global warming nonsense, and the list goes on...

Magazines and Newspapers = Sex, drugs, gossip, anti religious propaganda, nonsense, character assassinations, and so on.

All the above are the 'honorable' fruits of the godless atheism movement.

So please, there is no need to blame religion for what atheism has done and continues to do.

None of those things have to do with atheism whatsoever.

You try to act as if religious people are perfect and they aren't. Are you going to tell me that a religious person doesn't go google porn? Give me a break. It's a human thing, not a religious thing. Sex is a part of life. People like porn. Whoever googles it has nothing to do with religion. EVERYONE looks at porn at some point.

Your argument is ridiculous.

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

Judaism is not a religion that looks to convert people...

And yet here you are, preaching away. I asked you before and you ignored me so I'll ask again: Do you plan on actually discussing music at all here on Music Banter or what?

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

This is a perfect example of a pointless remark made to inflame and insult and contribute nothing to the discussion.

No Maccabbe, this is:

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

Now lets see and compare what the regular Joe encounters more in the street or anywhere else in his life, religion or atheism.

The Web = 80% porn

The Street = women walking almost naked, in the most revealing manner possible.

T.V = Filled with shows about sex, drugs, violence, abuse, evolution, religion bashing and the brutal media that pushes atheism on people at every given chance.

Universities = Sex parties, drugs, Evolution , global warming nonsense, and the list goes on...

Magazines and Newspapers = Sex, drugs, gossip, anti religious propaganda, nonsense, character assassinations, and so on.

All the above are the 'honorable' fruits of the godless atheism movement.

So please, there is no need to blame religion for what atheism has done and continues to do.

~~Maccabbe~~ · 02-14-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PinkCigarette

None of those things have to do with atheism whatsoever.

You try to act as if religious people are perfect and they aren't. Are you going to tell me that a religious person doesn't go google porn? Give me a break. It's a human thing, not a religious thing. Sex is a part of life. People like porn. Whoever googles it has nothing to do with religion. EVERYONE looks at porn at some point.

Your argument is ridiculous.

By your logic, we should legalize murder and theft because after all there were some weak religious people in history who also fell in these sins.

And I'm the ridiculous one?

I never claimed to suggest that Religious people are perfect, but at least we try to be on the good side and fix ourselves. God doesn’t demand perfection but trying to do the right thing.

And all these things that I have mentioned , the deterioration of society as we know it, the sex parties in the colleges, and the drugs, and the evolution theories and all the other negative streams were the direct cause of people who rejected God, and went against his ways.

This is just a fact.

On a personal note, how's your site going on without me there after you have banned me, huh Pink?

You have done what you wanted, so what are you doing here tailing me?

**Janszoon** · 02-14-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

By your logic, we should legalize murder and theft because after all there were some weak religious people in history who also fell in these sins.

And I'm the ridiculous one?

I never claimed to suggest that Religious people are perfect, but at least we try to be on the good side and fix ourselves. God doesn’t demand perfection but excursion.

And all these things that I have mentioned , the deterioration of society as we know it, the sex parties in the colleges, and the drugs, and the evolution theories and all the other negative streams were the direct cause of people who rejected God, and went against his ways.

This is just a fact.

On a personal note, how's your site going on without me there after you have banned me, huh Pink?

You have done what you wanted, so what are you doing here tailing me?

Again:

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Originally Posted by Maccabbe

This is a perfect example of a pointless remark made to inflame and insult and contribute nothing to the discussion.

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