This I Believe There is / is not a God

Blu · 01-19-2011, 10:59 PM

Ever since I was at an age where I could actually think it through, I haven't believed. By the logic that goes through my mind, and by outstanding evidence, it seems unlikely enough to discount. I'm not saying we can prove without a doubt that there is no god, but the evidence certainly points in that direction.

poppie · 01-20-2011, 01:51 AM

To love one another and try to help one another is our pourpose
for being here.
To live beautifully, as intensely as possible
and To obey.to maintain the earth as a home and not wreck it.

**Janszoon** · 01-20-2011, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by poppie

To love one another and try to help one another is our pourpose
for being here.
To live beautifully, as intensely as possible
and To obey.to maintain the earth as a home and not wreck it.

Why does any of that require God, Hell or Jesus?

TockTockTock · 01-20-2011, 05:59 AM

Yea... I know a few atheists and agnostics, and they are much kinder than the majority of the Christians that I know. Not to say Christians aren't kind, but I find that most people who do not believe in God or are unsure of him are more thoughtful than those who do believe in God. I don't think sitting in a pew every Sunday is going to make you a better person than those who don't. I think it's up to the person his or herself. Many psychologists have done a study saying that humans are innately born with a moral code, so why do we require a religion to have one? Of course, maybe I'm just generalizing people... the Psychology of Religion in the APA has also stated that having a religion leads to a healthy lifestyle and benefits the person both mentally and physically.

s_k · 01-20-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Why does any of that require God, Hell or Jesus?

Man, I love how you ask the things I want to ask, so I can keep out of trouble

. Thanks

.

Blu · 01-20-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JackPat

but I find that most people who do not believe in God or are unsure of him are more thoughtful than those who do believe in God.

That could be, and this is quite a generalization, because atheists and agnostics tend to think more; think for themselves, think outside the box, which can lead to being more thoughtful to others. This does not apply to a lot of atheists, though.

s_k · 01-20-2011, 02:35 PM

Hmm... My experience (maybe that's a dutch thing though) is that people who have a strong belief for some god usually have a lot of awful stuff to hide. They hide behind their religion. This, ofcourse, is generalization too. I know at least one person who is religious who is just a brilliant guy.

poppie · 01-20-2011, 02:56 PM

to be honest i really don't know that the stuff they put in our heads
when i use to go to school and church.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Why does any of that require God, Hell or Jesus?

TockTockTock · 01-20-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

Hmm... My experience (maybe that's a dutch thing though) is that people who have a strong belief for some god usually have a lot of awful stuff to hide. They hide behind their religion. This, ofcourse, is generalization too. I know at least one person who is religious who is just a brilliant guy.

This is a bit off topic, but you're from the Netherlands? Did you watch the world cup?

s_k · 01-20-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by poppie

to be honest i really don't know that the stuff they put in our heads
when i use to go to school and church.

This is a bit pathetic man

.
Time to start thinking for yourself.
Time to become yourself!

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Originally Posted by JackPat

This is a bit off topic, but you're from the Netherlands? Did you watch the world cup?

Yes and... Well I tried as I always was convinced I hated soccer. Now I hate it even more. So yeah, sort of, why?

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TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Yea... I know a few atheists and agnostics, and they are much kinder than the majority of the Christians that I know. Not to say Christians aren't kind, but I find that most people who do not believe in God or are unsure of him are more thoughtful than those who do believe in God. I don't think sitting in a pew every Sunday is going to make you a better person than those who don't. I think it's up to the person his or herself. Many psychologists have done a study saying that humans are innately born with a moral code, so why do we require a religion to have one? Of course, maybe I'm just generalizing people... the Psychology of Religion in the APA has also stated that having a religion leads to a healthy lifestyle and benefits the person both mentally and physically.