This I Believe There is / is not a God

Guybrush · 12-31-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by noise

just to clarify - which version is simpler?

The meaning of simple here should be replaced with which version requires the fewer new assumptions to be made about our universe, not which one is simpler to explain. Using Occam's razor as a sweeping argument against the hypothesis that God created the universe may not be as easy as one might think, but I too am in favour of it as a way to mentally challenge or test truths.

Dotoar · 01-02-2011, 01:13 PM

Yeah, there is a god, and his name is Carl Sagan.

Guybrush · 01-02-2011, 01:46 PM

Earlier today, there was a film about Moses on the telly and it got me wondering quite a bit as I watched it.

The story of Moses is good, old fashioned christianity. God is a pretty scary deity who kills a whole lot of egyptians, for example through the 7 plagues like killing all egyptian first born children or when the pursuing egyptians are swallowed by the red sea.

Later in the story, Moses gets the ten commandments, one of which is "thou shalt not kill" which seems to me a little contradictory coming from a God that supposedly caused all kinds of suffering a little earlier in the film. What do you christians think about this?

Also, God is very active in this story. If you were not a christian, you would almost have to become one because his direct involvement in the lives of the people in this story is undeniable. It's not a voice in hearts or heads, but real stuff happening physically to people and the world. For example, the Nile's water turns to blood and he splits the red sea. Why is it that God has stopped interacting with people in such a direct way?

Dr_Rez · 01-02-2011, 01:59 PM

Dont forget when God screwed Moses out of the promise land. That always made me so mad growing up because Moses trys so hard and does everything god says and then has to stay in the dessert and die while the people he saves go on to a great life.

I miss JayJamJah

khfreek · 01-02-2011, 03:06 PM

I miss him too, the post of his in my sig is just a sample of how cool he was

Dr_Rez · 01-02-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by khfreek

I miss him too, the post of his in my sig is just a sample of how cool he was

haha I always just thought you quoted a period for no reason. I never clicked it until now. Stupid me.

Bushidosniper · 01-03-2011, 07:55 PM

In short,(mainly because i'm tired and don't really feel like typing a lot) I believe there is no God because of all the horrible things that happen.

I've heard the religious saying(don't quote me here)
"Everything happens for a reason"
So the little 3 year old, who will grow up being tossed around from orphanage to orphanage, his/her parents died for a reason?
To put it politely, Bull ****.

There are a myriad of other reasons why I believe there is no God, but this is one of the larger and more influential ones.

**Janszoon** · 01-03-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushidosniper

(don't quote me here)

Quotin dis

Dr_Rez · 01-03-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Quotin dis

Ok settle down there smartass

s_k · 01-04-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Quotin dis

I knew you would be the one to do this ;D.

01-02-2011, 01:13 PM	#592 (permalink)
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01-02-2011, 01:46 PM	#593 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Earlier today, there was a film about Moses on the telly and it got me wondering quite a bit as I watched it. The story of Moses is good, old fashioned christianity. God is a pretty scary deity who kills a whole lot of egyptians, for example through the 7 plagues like killing all egyptian first born children or when the pursuing egyptians are swallowed by the red sea. Later in the story, Moses gets the ten commandments, one of which is "thou shalt not kill" which seems to me a little contradictory coming from a God that supposedly caused all kinds of suffering a little earlier in the film. What do you christians think about this? Also, God is very active in this story. If you were not a christian, you would almost have to become one because his direct involvement in the lives of the people in this story is undeniable. It's not a voice in hearts or heads, but real stuff happening physically to people and the world. For example, the Nile's water turns to blood and he splits the red sea. Why is it that God has stopped interacting with people in such a direct way? __________________ Something Completely Different

01-02-2011, 01:59 PM	#594 (permalink)
Dr_Rez Registered Jimmy Rustler Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,360	Dont forget when God screwed Moses out of the promise land. That always made me so mad growing up because Moses trys so hard and does everything god says and then has to stay in the dessert and die while the people he saves go on to a great life. I miss JayJamJah __________________ Best chance of losing virginity is in prison crew Always Checks Credentials Crew nba > nfl crew Shave one of my legs to pretend its a girl in my bed crew

01-02-2011, 03:06 PM	#595 (permalink)
khfreek What a guy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,123	I miss him too, the post of his in my sig is just a sample of how cool he was __________________ last.fm

01-03-2011, 07:55 PM	#597 (permalink)
Bushidosniper Groupie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: The Bowels Of Hell Posts: 47	In short,(mainly because i'm tired and don't really feel like typing a lot) I believe there is no God because of all the horrible things that happen. I've heard the religious saying(don't quote me here) "Everything happens for a reason" So the little 3 year old, who will grow up being tossed around from orphanage to orphanage, his/her parents died for a reason? To put it politely, Bull ****. There are a myriad of other reasons why I believe there is no God, but this is one of the larger and more influential ones.