This I Believe There is / is not a God

anticipation · 10-30-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

People ask such silly questions. Is there intelligence behind the universe? There is intelligence in the universe, why would there also need to be intelligence behind it? Intelligence is something the universe does. The more interesting question is whether intelligence is good in itself.

no such thing as universal good or bad, a better question is do you think intelligence is good?

cardboard adolescent · 10-30-2009, 03:27 PM

i think intelligence makes its own standards so it might as well call itself good, makes things easier that way

or it can just ignore itself, that works too

Son of JayJamJah · 10-30-2009, 04:01 PM

I don't think so much time needs to be spent evaluating the meanings of words and questions.

I think both are really just ways of communicating which questioning assumed or excepted meanings only complicates.

Regardless of if intelligence is good, or what it is or how it's defined universally, it as a word has several accepted meanings to English speakers which make the questions people ask far more sensible then any deconstruction of them.

cardboard adolescent · 10-30-2009, 04:08 PM

really?

anticipation · 10-30-2009, 04:10 PM

just to clarify, i wasn't saying that there is no universally accepted definition of intelligence, i was saying that nothing is inherently good or bad. your post made it sound like you misinterpreted what we were talking about, at least when i read it, and i do agree that the arguments of intelligence in/behind the univerise are valid and important.

Malicious Wakizashi · 10-30-2009, 04:37 PM

Intelligence is bad if it is within a mechanized framework of the world, because it leads to an attitude of power over nature, which is absurd.

Neapolitan · 10-30-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

People ask such silly questions. Is there intelligence behind the universe? There is intelligence in the universe, why would there also need to be intelligence behind it.

Wether there is Intelligence behind the Universe isn't a silly question.
The reason there needs to be intelligence behind the universe, is because there is intelligence in the universe. A greater thing can not come from a lesser thing. The intelligence humans possess does not from less-intelligent or non-intelligent things in the universe. There must be a higher intellingence that gives man his intelligence.

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

The more interesting question is whether intelligence is good in itself.

Intelligence is good when put to good use.
It's the ill-informed conscience that is a dangerous thing.

Malicious Wakizashi · 10-30-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

It's the ill-informed conscience that is a dangerous thing.

What do you mean by that?

**Janszoon** · 10-30-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Wether there is Intelligence behind the Universe isn't a silly question.
The reason there needs to be intelligence behind the universe, is because there is intelligence in the universe. A greater thing can not come from a lesser thing. The intelligence humans possess does not from less-intelligent or non-intelligent things in the universe. There must be a higher intellingence that gives man his intelligence.

cardboard adolescent · 10-31-2009, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Wether there is Intelligence behind the Universe isn't a silly question.
The reason there needs to be intelligence behind the universe, is because there is intelligence in the universe. A greater thing can not come from a lesser thing. The intelligence humans possess does not from less-intelligent or non-intelligent things in the universe. There must be a higher intellingence that gives man his intelligence.

you have heard of evolution, right?

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cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	i think intelligence makes its own standards so it might as well call itself good, makes things easier that way or it can just ignore itself, that works too

10-30-2009, 04:08 PM	#334 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	really?

10-30-2009, 04:10 PM	#335 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	just to clarify, i wasn't saying that there is no universally accepted definition of intelligence, i was saying that nothing is inherently good or bad. your post made it sound like you misinterpreted what we were talking about, at least when i read it, and i do agree that the arguments of intelligence in/behind the univerise are valid and important.