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Old 10-03-2009, 01:07 PM   #261 (permalink)
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In the bible, God says that he knew someone before they were in the womb.

That's what's used to justify that people are alive before they're born.

Not science.

The bible shouldn't be used to interpret.
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:36 PM   #262 (permalink)
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what. do. you. mean?
Stop.? Posting.?
Either. you. use. too. many. periods. or. you. like. sentence. fragments.
Apart from punctuation, do you take the bible literally?
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Old 10-03-2009, 03:50 PM   #263 (permalink)
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Apart from punctuation, do you take the bible literally?
Why would you take a work of fiction literally? I'll give him one thing, God can spin a damn good yarn, else those guys on mountain never would bought it...


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Old 10-03-2009, 06:38 PM   #264 (permalink)
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Why would you take a work of fiction literally?
It depends on whether or not you believe the bible is a work of fiction.
Neopolitan seems to believe it is. Not only that, but he's seems to be under the impression that it's full of various descriptions of U.F.O.'s.

I'll ask him again...do you (Neoploitan) take the bible literally?
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:52 PM   #265 (permalink)
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Well I meant my comment to be ridiculously inaccurate, totally off the mark and completely beside the point, to be honest.

The Bible is... well, I wouldn't say that it's entirely a work of fiction. I find the idea of miracles and whatnot a bit farfetched, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's all made up. there's a fair probability that most the the characters portrayed in the Bible did in fact walk the earth, but whether any of them were the son of an omnipotent entity capable of performing miracles? Unlikely. I powerful speaker, a mover of nations, certainly, but a divine being, not so likely.

As for whether there is in fact a God. I would argue that there's a high chance that there was a Creator (As far as I can see, life still cannot be "created", until the point in time that someone shows me created life, one has to assume that life started somewhere, and that somewhere, as it stands from my point of view, has to have been some creationist beginning. Hell, for all I know the Big Bang is correct, but it was just some really bored guy exploding our universe like a potato in a microwave. There's a funny image :P), but that he's long since buggered off, leaving us to our own devices. If there are any gods of the omnipotent benevolent/malevolent being strain, then I would be more likely to believe that they were created by the beliefs of humankind, rather than that they/he/she are/is our creator(s).
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:48 PM   #266 (permalink)
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I would argue that there's a high chance that there was a Creator (As far as I can see, life still cannot be "created", until the point in time that someone shows me created life, one has to assume that life started somewhere, and that somewhere, as it stands from my point of view, has to have been some creationist beginning.
The ingredients are all present in the universe for life to form. It just needs the right conditions to happen randomly. It is certainly possible for it to all come together on it's own after billions of years.

For all we know, aliens could be the creators of life here on earth. We could all be some alien experiment created millions of years ago sent to evolve on it's own. You can't rule out the possibility of that.
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Old 10-03-2009, 08:49 PM   #267 (permalink)
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It just needs the right conditions to happen randomly.
You know this contradicts itself here.
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:02 PM   #268 (permalink)
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See I'd totally feel rebuffed if you'd actually said anything of value. ... if you ever did that I may not have told you to stop posting.
I did say something of value imo, maybe it wasn't valuable to you iyo. And that was people should not be put in sacks and beat with baseball bats. And on a side note it should not be done because they literally read a religious book, because how would one know if that person is reading it literally or not. I also said that people have a right to cultivate their spiritual side.

You constantly bringing up the stone the fowl mouth youths, I don't why you do that. I've seen almost every kind of attitude, every kind of argument against Christianity, honestly I don't know where you stand. There is more to the Bible then the creation story, yet to many people that is all they know and they go no further than that. And yet some of them will form their opinion on Christianity only reading less then 1% of the Bible. For other people they will read through the Bible and probably reading it more times then most Christian do. Some of them have a axe to grind (so to speak) and they comb through it looking for verses to use in arguments. I find you somewhere inbetween, whenever you mention "the fowl mouth youths" I often wonder how you feel about religion in general.

As far as the Bible bieng a work of fiction. The Bible is unique unto itself, out of respect, I can't explain the Bible away as being one kind literature. I often see words like fictional, historical, mythical, scientific, used in about the Bible. But they are terms that explain how people view different types of writings now but they don't fully explain what the Bible is. The Bible was not intended to be a historical book or a scientific book. If you take part of the Bible that is a historical account, it isn't the same as a History Book, because with the Bible behind the historical sense there is a spiritual sense.
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For all we know, aliens could be the creators of life here on earth. We could all be some alien experiment created millions of years ago sent to evolve on it's own. You can't rule out the possibility of that.
On the other hand there is no reason to make that assumption.
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:04 PM   #270 (permalink)
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For all we know, aliens could be the creators of life here on earth. We could all be some alien experiment created millions of years ago sent to evolve on it's own. You can't rule out the possibility of that.
You need to stop stealing all your beliefs from Marvel comics.
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