Arya Stark

I've met so many types of believers, though.

I've met those who just need something to believe in, those who strongly believe in God, those who were brought up to believe in God, those who believe in him for the fear OF him... etc.

Each of them reacts a different way.

As for Athiests, there are those who don't believe in God so that they can fit in, those who don't believe in God because they were brought up not to believe in God, those who don't believe in God because of some sort of experience... etc.

Each of them reacts differentl as well.
Almost contradicting my previous post, I've met a lot more Atheists who are willing to hold back their beliefs than believers.

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Arya Stark

In the bible, God says that he knew someone before they were in the womb.

That's what's used to justify that people are alive before they're born.

Not science.

The bible shouldn't be used to interpret.

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MoonlitSunshine

Well I meant my comment to be ridiculously inaccurate, totally off the mark and completely beside the point, to be honest.

The Bible is... well, I wouldn't say that it's entirely a work of fiction. I find the idea of miracles and whatnot a bit farfetched, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's all made up. there's a fair probability that most the the characters portrayed in the Bible did in fact walk the earth, but whether any of them were the son of an omnipotent entity capable of performing miracles? Unlikely. I powerful speaker, a mover of nations, certainly, but a divine being, not so likely.

As for whether there is in fact a God. I would argue that there's a high chance that there was a Creator (As far as I can see, life still cannot be "created", until the point in time that someone shows me created life, one has to assume that life started somewhere, and that somewhere, as it stands from my point of view, has to have been some creationist beginning. Hell, for all I know the Big Bang is correct, but it was just some really bored guy exploding our universe like a potato in a microwave. There's a funny image :P), but that he's long since buggered off, leaving us to our own devices. If there are any gods of the omnipotent benevolent/malevolent being strain, then I would be more likely to believe that they were created by the beliefs of humankind, rather than that they/he/she are/is our creator(s).

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Darkest Hour

The ingredients are all present in the universe for life to form. It just needs the right conditions to happen randomly. It is certainly possible for it to all come together on it's own after billions of years.

For all we know, aliens could be the creators of life here on earth. We could all be some alien experiment created millions of years ago sent to evolve on it's own. You can't rule out the possibility of that.

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Rickenbacker

You know this contradicts itself here.

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On the other hand there is no reason to make that assumption.

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You need to stop stealing all your beliefs from Marvel comics.

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SATCHMO

Well it can certainly be noted that it's always the violent, self-righteous, finger wagging, destructive actions of the narrow-minded, (as opposed to spiritual) distinctly religious fundamentalists the stick out in the mind of those formulating opinions on a particular religion or on religion in general.
It's unfortunate and ironic that the most zealous members of a particular religion are the ones that often do their cause more harm than good and poorly represent what it means to have a spiritual relationship with a "higher power"m and while it's true that history is riddled with violence in the name of religion, I fail to see why this is always a go to for atheists and the like when the amount of charity and general good will that religious organizations have contributed in times of crisis grossly outweigh examples of violence and religious extremism.
There will always be wacko extremists in western religion, but they are the outspoken minority, the exception not the rule.

Arya Stark

Well there are extremists in many cases.

I remember watching the news, and hearing something about a bunch of LGBTs going into a church... ranting and raving as well as throwing stuff around.

I'm taking this from memory.

The fight for gay rights is legitimate, but the church or whatever ceremony they broke into, wasn't even against gay rights.

You know?

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SATCHMO

This is what I'm saying.

Both that non-religious seemingly open minded organizations are just as capable of violence and ignorance, and also that I think it's safe to say that the majority of Christians, at least the ones I know of, are very supportive of *** rights. It's just that the ones that "make the news" are intolerant, ignorant, and close minded fundamentalists.