ADELE

self awareness.
hold your pet in front of the mirror and they will look everywhere but not at themselves.
They are not aware of themselves.
and they are colour blind I assure you.
if they were they could plan like we do.

Janszoon

I take it you've never had birds.

Fyrenza

it wasn't something up for debate

it's scientific fact that they can see some colors albeit not as vividly as we do

The Unfan

How is self awareness required for free will? You can process thought without awareness.

Brad Stengel

I guess. Free will is a moot point, humans know the difference between right and wrong, and are capable of using logic over emotion, something most racists (and cats) have a difficult time doing.

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The Unfan

How is racism not logical? If you know 400 Japanese people and all of them are murderers it would be logical for you to not trust Japanese people based off of personal experience.

Brad Stengel

First of all this mathemetical ridiculousness is inherently illogical because nobodys ever only met 400 Japenese people, all of which are murderers. People are people, and either way its correlating how someone ACTS with how they LOOK, two things COMPLETELY unrelated. Human logic can go beyond that of a mere calculator, and factor in critical thinking, hence making your argument illogical.

What was that psychologist that proposed that personality was based on appearance? It was a theory about 100-150 yrs ago, part of it stated that fat people are always jovial...its absurd, almost as absurd as this argument.

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jibber

thank you. I was getting extremely tired of trying to tell the few people spouting off mathematical sequences as if they could be applied to human behavior that they are utter idiots. you summed it up very nicely.

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The Unfan

Not really though. You could be correlating how someone acts with the genetic differences between different races. That and I'm still confused as to why you deny that war vets exist.

These men are made of straws.

Brad Stengel

If youre reffering to an example I gave about my grandfather hating the Japenese, basically what I explained was that its still illogical for him to think that, there are people out there that still recognize that war is hell, and theres probably japanese that think the same way about white people. Its still a stupid way to think, but Im not going to call him out on it because he went through some shit, and its not that big of a deal for him to hold that opinion. I think it differs alot from someone who hates black people because they encountered a few rude ones.

But considering he lived in New England and rarely even had to encounter Japanese people, it probably added to his prejudice since it didnt really interfere with his life at all. If I hate Kazakstanians, I could easily hold that hatred for a long time without being challenged since I wont ever encounter one.

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