Double X

I kinda see what you are saying. My cousin was molested until she was 11 or 12 by her grandfather (not mine though) and she still has trouble hugging elder people. It's somewhat different but I think some of these racist generalizations can come from instincts. I think it's very rare to always have a bad encounter with every person of a specific race you meet...but I guess it could happen. The same reason people don't like being near hobos, in a twisted sort of way.

Brad Stengel

I think that judging someone on a certain belief, whether or not it is ignorant or offensive, is just as ridiculous as racism itself

For example, Double X's comment about the elderly. A similar situation was my grandfather who was a Marine in Pailieleu (sp?) in WWII. He was in a trench with his friend, when a Japanese soldier came in and slit his friends throat. He had to fight the soldier hand to hand, and killed him. He HATED Japanese people, and while on one hand you could say its ignorant, and he should realize it was war and its absurd to think that, the ****ing guy had to sleep with the lights on the rest of his life, and would sometimes wake up screaming.

Its not that easy for some people to get over stuff like that and accept everyone like all our guidance counselors and Disney proggramming want us to. Life is much more complicated than that. Which is why judging someone on a racist belief is inherently retarted. You don't know their situation, so you're being just as ignorant as them. Its utter hypocrisy.

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The Unfan

So which is it? They either had to conclude something about the culture or race based on the currently known information (A totally scientific approach) or their brain had to have a random chemical reaction to make them have a random uncontrolled thought about a random race or culture.

The latter is evidently not the case because no racists that I can think of hate blacks for being good at Starcraft and has a hatred for Asians because they believe Asians to be kool-aid drinking porch monkeys. The stereotypical racist therefore can be logically concluded to have used a non-random process to develop racist tendencies. If you could present information that would hint otherwise than I would gladly give it a look, but for now...

This leaves one of two options, making a decision based on the lack of data or based on the presented data. Both of course would mean they are making decisions based on currently known information. In either case there is a science behind the case of racism and racism must follow a scientific method.

Double X

That's amazing. My best friend, neighbor, and classmate since I was 4 was developing what we thought was minor injuries from some football practices, but thought he was okay and played in the Varisity game anyways on Sept 5. He seemingly suffered from a concussion on the field that day and taken to a hospital. Some of his blood vessels in his chest actually broke during the game and he had a ruptured and heart valve and his lungs filled up with fluid.

He died that night (RIP my friend). I can't watch, much less talk about football without getting emotional because that is basically what killed him.

ADELE

I think racism today is more about cultralism.
And cultures do not always mix well as they may be contradictory in beliefs and customs.
It isn't the colour of the skin but more the culture of a race.
I still say that within a race you get all types.
Where cultral difference is more obvious is in places that have strong historic cultral narratives that suddenly seem threatened by a new culture that has contradictory practices.
It is like my belief in the healing properties of weed whereas some older people may just see me as a drug addict who will ruin their town.
Humans like been around their own kind and some argue it is a survival trait.
This is what is mistaken for racism.
But if a person hates people or activities due to personal bad experience this is more to do with neurosis and is a type of mental illness. And mental illness doesn't require rational evidence.
that is my take on racism.
Also racism is much worse, in my opinion in other cultures then in the US or UK where newcomers have always been made welcome and respected in the main.
Worse in the way that marriage for example outside of your own race is punishable by death.
I don't know many muslims or jews or hindus or sikhs who marry or date outside of their own.
In all I think cultralism is more of an issue then racism.
The thing I think is sad about people who are racist is that while I know the point they make I feel they shouldn't carry hatred as it brings them down and destroys their sense of humour and inner peace.
Many also are racist because their parents were and they don't like to think of their parents as been wrong.
Also, even if a group of people are cretins or abusive why let them turn you into one?
I remember this woman in northern ireland who said "why should I not teach my kids to hate the protestants? They hate me.
So she has chosen to continue this pityful negative lifestyle out of spite.
Even if you do hate or dislike certain people it is best to forget them and think about things you can do that create and help and inspire and leave them to be cretins.

The Unfan

So if someone killed my mom and I hate them for that I am mentally ill? Yeah, I call bull****.

Racism is funny.

ADELE

Yes you would be in that state of anger and loss.
But on the topic you do not ask victims of crime right after the crime what the government should use as punishment do you?
What has racism got to do with killing someone?
That is just not anything to do with it.
If you associate a group with negative aspects then that is a form of fear or neurosis.

The Unfan

Hating something isn't caused from fear. I hate Bono but I wouldn't say I'm afraid of him.

Neurosis is also a highly outdated term that is no long in use in any medical fields because it essentially has no meaning except for secondary classification purposes and its not even seen as a negative diagnosis in psychiatry. To say someone suffers from neurosis is like saying someone suffers from simply not liking something.

ADELE

yes but not liking something for a healthy person is just a waste of time.
It is not possible to like all things as if you like one thing you will by effect dislike another but that doesn't intrinsicly make that other thing bad or you better.
Why carry hate?
hate will just make you a hateful unhappy person.
But if your hatred becomes a part of your daily thinking then I would say that is something to do with a negative mindset and possibly neurosis. It is not rational.
For example people who join racist political parties, why not join a party that creates playgrounds for kids, libraries etc?
Why go out and preach hate? We all know what is negative but it takes more creativity to create what we like then to knock down what we don't. If you believe in science you will believe in evolution. Animals do not attack unless they are under attack or hungry. Fear leads them to attack. They animals with the most healthy brain function have more sociable lives and those who have poor neurology are isolated and angry and harm themselves.
I don't think thinking about what you hate is ever going to help yourself to enjoy life.
maybe they don't like you either and you are no better then them.

I know you are not fearful of Bono but perhaps someone like you does have fear inside and it expresses itself this way.
Or perhaps you gain pleasure from hatred and rather then focus on what you do like you enjoy to focus on what you don't.
Unless you actually gain pleasure from hating then you must gain displeasure and that is why I spend no time thinking about what I hate.
Life is too short to spend hating anything or anyone.

ADELE

what currently known information?
What lack of data?