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View Poll Results: Who will it be?
Obama 42 79.25%
McCain 5 9.43%
**** you RezZ, I'm not telling you! 6 11.32%
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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obama... simply because hes black
I would hardly consider him black. Have you heard him speak or seen where he comes from?
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would hardly consider him black. Have you heard him speak or seen where he comes from?
what does this have to do with his ethnicity?
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Old 06-21-2008, 01:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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what does this have to do with his ethnicity?
Technically nothing. But you asked this question knowing what my answer was going to be. The black stereotype is what most people think when presented with the question of a black man becoming president.

It just strikes me funny when you turn on the TV and constantly see stars talking about "black pride, black culture, black personality, black style" yet never mentioning that you dont have to be any of those to be black.

I have to go to work but will continue this later.
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Technically nothing. But you asked this question knowing what my answer was going to be. The black stereotype is what most people think when presented with the question of a black man becoming president.

It just strikes me funny when you turn on the TV and constantly see stars talking about "black pride, black culture, black personality, black style" yet never mentioning that you dont have to be any of those to be black.

I have to go to work but will continue this later.
Wait, so you were saying he was less black because he didn't fit the black stereotype?

How does him being educated and coherent make him any less?

I don't think its those TV personalities intention of making a line between who's black and who's not, just informing you to be proud of the fact you are.

I don't celebrate the liberation of Denmark from the Nazi's on the 5th of May every year, this doesn't make me any less of a citizen there.
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't celebrate the liberation of Denmark from the Nazi's on the 5th of May every year, this doesn't make me any less of a citizen there.
OO I celebrate that every year with some Coronas or tequila.

Damn we can't see who voted for mccain.

Obama is not the stereotype of any group, which is why I like him. His words sound genuine most of the time, the opposite of McCain who sounds completely fake to me since he won the nomination. I can't wait for the debates...
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Both pretty much fail, but it really doesn't matter because my 18th birthday is about 2 or so days after Election Day. .

If I had to pick I'd say Obama. He's pulled in more than half the amount of money from his campaign than McCain has. Plus he's not a conservative. woooo.
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Both pretty much fail, but it really doesn't matter because my 18th birthday is about 2 or so days after Election Day. .

If I had to pick I'd say Obama. He's pulled in more than half the amount of money from his campaign than McCain has. Plus he's not a conservative. woooo.
Why do they fail?

And considering what we called a conservative in 2004, I'm going to agree with Predator and say McCain isn't a conservative either.

Still I'm going with Obama, despite his less than exceptional positions on things like the Capitol Gains Tax. He's got more of a diplomatic edge to him. I was reading in Newsweek (this month with Chruchhill on the cover) that the best foreign policy leaders were ones who wanted diplomacy but were not afraid to use force. Or threaten in convincingly.

McCain is an all of nothing kind of guy, he opposed our air strikes in Serbia because we didn't also send in ground troops. He correctly supports the surge, but incorrectly advocates for the invasion of Iran, although recent commentary about economic withdrawal might save face.

McCain has a Charter school mentality when it comes to education and I feel strongly that Charter schools give way to a new American class system, one that deprives people of social mobility.

McCain also supports offshore drilling which will do nothing but screw our marine waters. And worst of all he's kowtowed to the religious and neo-conservative right where he once stood in brilliant opposition.

And I love Obama's constant channeling of Jack Kennedy where in he cribs Kennedy's "we should never negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate."

Well, those are my reasonings. As for Rezz, that might be one of the more ignorant things I've read on here.

What you're suggesting is that all Blacks are uneducated and can't speak...is that your implication?
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Obama, he's such a fluent and well organized speaker....That's what this world needs
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