The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread (singer, hip-hop)

NSW · 08-14-2008, 03:55 PM

Foul-talking shopper stirs up a tempest at store in La Marque
Fire captain writes a ticket, tells woman to watch her mouth
By PEGGY O'HARE Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Aug. 13, 2008, 11:28PM

As Tropical Storm Edouard closed in on the Texas Gulf Coast last week, a storm of a different kind was brewing inside the sporting goods section of a Wal-Mart store in La Marque. It started with the F-word.

And now a 28-year-old single mother must go to court if she wants to fight a ticket for using profanity.

On Aug. 4, as local residents prepared for deteriorating weather conditions, Kathryn "Kristi" Fridge made a last-minute stop at the Wal-Mart at FM 1764 and Interstate 45 with her mother and 2-year-old daughter.

Finding the batteries shelf bare, she expressed her displeasure and disbelief to her mother.

"I was like, 'Dang.' I looked at my mom and said, 'They're all ----ing gone," Fridge recalled.

Suddenly, Capt. Alfred Decker, the La Marque assistant fire marshal, appeared from around the corner, dressed in a fire department uniform.

"He said, 'You need to watch your mouth,' " Fridge said.

Perplexed by who the man was — his badge said "fire department" — Fridge offered a scant apology.

"I was like, 'Oh, OK. Sorry?' " she said.

Fridge walked away, but said the man ordered her to come back. She then protested, telling him she was having a private conversation with her mother that was none of his business. When the man ordered her to come to him and she refused, she said he pulled out his handcuffs.

Chief defends the action
La Marque Fire Chief Todd Zacherl said Fridge made such a scene in the Wal-Mart that night, disrupting the peace, that Decker had no choice but to act.

"She cussed him, she cussed everybody. By now, we have a huge group of people looking," Zacherl said.

Fridge emphatically denied that, saying while she did curse in casual conversation with her mother, she never cursed at Decker, even during their confrontation. Her mother agreed.

"She never got nasty with him, she never cussed at him," said Fridge's mother, Kathryn Rice of Santa Fe.

Decker ordered Fridge to come out to his car because that's where his citation book was stored, Zacherl said. Fridge eventually complied, but admits she used the offending word again when she turned to a crowd of onlookers while being led outside and yelled, "Can you believe this? He's ----ing arresting me for saying ----!"

"When I got outside, I saw he was a fire marshal — I saw his car. I said, 'You're not even a cop!' He said, 'I can do this,' " Fridge said.

Decker asked for her name, and Fridge said she began to spell it out verbally and in sign language, which angered him. As their confrontation continued, he handcuffed her.

Zacherl said the assistant fire marshal did so for his own safety because Fridge was being belligerent and because he had to turn his back to get his ticket book and check on the radio if she had any arrest warrants.

Ultimately, Fridge was released and ticketed for disorderly conduct, a Class C misdemeanor. She can pay a fine or appear in court to contest the citation.

State law says the use of abusive, indecent, profane or vulgar language in a public place, which causes an "immediate breach of the peace," meets the definition of disorderly conduct.

Because the municipal court case is pending, Decker cannot comment on the matter, Zacherl said.

Three days later, Fridge went to the La Marque Fire Department to speak with the fire chief and was given forms to make a complaint. She hasn't made an official complaint, but says she will contact a lawyer before deciding whether to pursue one.

"I'm not out to sue or get money — I just want them to drop this ticket," Fridge said Wednesday. "Yes, I probably shouldn't have cussed in public, but he took it way too far."

Zacherl said the assistant fire marshal had no choice.

"When you're in uniform, you have to uphold the laws," the fire chief said. "It's like if he was on the way home and saw a drunk driver — he had to act."

Public reaction
Decker is certified by the state of Texas as firefighter, peace officer, fire investigator and fire inspector. His fire department uniform also says "investigator," Zacherl said.

Zacherl said he has received about 15 phone calls from people reacting to the incident. Several accused the assistant fire marshal of abusing his power, but most calls have been positive, Zacherl said.

"The rest (of the phone calls) are, 'Thank you, thank you, thank you,' " Zacherl said.

lucifer_sam · 08-14-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife

"When you're in uniform, you have to uphold the laws," the fire chief said. "It's like if he was on the way home and saw a drunk driver — he had to act."

Piss Me Off · 08-31-2008, 07:14 PM

Should i laugh or cry?

lucifer_sam · 08-31-2008, 09:50 PM

That is the most retarded and overtly biased piece of bullshit I've read in a while. It wasn't funny or enlightening at all. It just makes me sad that people still think that way.

~~The Unfan~~ · 08-31-2008, 11:34 PM

I agree, rap isn't music.

lucifer_sam · 08-31-2008, 11:44 PM

You'd be just as biased and culturally depraved as the author, then. Learn to embrace foreign cultures. It will do you some good.

~~The Unfan~~ · 08-31-2008, 11:49 PM

I wouldn't use the term culturally depraved. I just really hate rap, and hip-hop. Even at the height of the style it still sounds like garbage. I find even Sugar Hill Gang impossible to enjoy.

lucifer_sam · 09-01-2008, 12:37 AM

And I hate generic emo music in all its forms, but I will at least grudgingly acknowledge it as music.

But rap and hip-hop spawned from an African-American counterculture that fomented in the eighties. It wasn't a bunch of guys that desperately wanted to make money, but people who used their vocal emissions to express themselves. Saying that it isn't music is self-deprecating and ignorant.

Piss Me Off · 09-01-2008, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

That is the most retarded and overtly biased piece of bullshit I've read in a while. It wasn't funny or enlightening at all. It just makes me sad that people still think that way.

It's the Sun, it comes with the territory

Kirby · 09-01-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

And I hate generic emo music in all its forms, but I will at least grudgingly acknowledge it as music.

But rap and hip-hop spawned from an African-American counterculture that fomented in the eighties. It wasn't a bunch of guys that desperately wanted to make money, but people who used their vocal emissions to express themselves. Saying that it isn't music is self-deprecating and ignorant.

I agree, 100%

08-14-2008, 03:55 PM	#41 (permalink)
NSW Bigger and Better Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas girl living in the UK Posts: 2,596	Foul-talking shopper stirs up a tempest at store in La Marque Fire captain writes a ticket, tells woman to watch her mouth By PEGGY O'HARE Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle Aug. 13, 2008, 11:28PM As Tropical Storm Edouard closed in on the Texas Gulf Coast last week, a storm of a different kind was brewing inside the sporting goods section of a Wal-Mart store in La Marque. It started with the F-word. And now a 28-year-old single mother must go to court if she wants to fight a ticket for using profanity. On Aug. 4, as local residents prepared for deteriorating weather conditions, Kathryn "Kristi" Fridge made a last-minute stop at the Wal-Mart at FM 1764 and Interstate 45 with her mother and 2-year-old daughter. Finding the batteries shelf bare, she expressed her displeasure and disbelief to her mother. "I was like, 'Dang.' I looked at my mom and said, 'They're all ----ing gone," Fridge recalled. Suddenly, Capt. Alfred Decker, the La Marque assistant fire marshal, appeared from around the corner, dressed in a fire department uniform. "He said, 'You need to watch your mouth,' " Fridge said. Perplexed by who the man was — his badge said "fire department" — Fridge offered a scant apology. "I was like, 'Oh, OK. Sorry?' " she said. Fridge walked away, but said the man ordered her to come back. She then protested, telling him she was having a private conversation with her mother that was none of his business. When the man ordered her to come to him and she refused, she said he pulled out his handcuffs. Chief defends the action La Marque Fire Chief Todd Zacherl said Fridge made such a scene in the Wal-Mart that night, disrupting the peace, that Decker had no choice but to act. "She cussed him, she cussed everybody. By now, we have a huge group of people looking," Zacherl said. Fridge emphatically denied that, saying while she did curse in casual conversation with her mother, she never cursed at Decker, even during their confrontation. Her mother agreed. "She never got nasty with him, she never cussed at him," said Fridge's mother, Kathryn Rice of Santa Fe. Decker ordered Fridge to come out to his car because that's where his citation book was stored, Zacherl said. Fridge eventually complied, but admits she used the offending word again when she turned to a crowd of onlookers while being led outside and yelled, "Can you believe this? He's ----ing arresting me for saying ----!" "When I got outside, I saw he was a fire marshal — I saw his car. I said, 'You're not even a cop!' He said, 'I can do this,' " Fridge said. Decker asked for her name, and Fridge said she began to spell it out verbally and in sign language, which angered him. As their confrontation continued, he handcuffed her. Zacherl said the assistant fire marshal did so for his own safety because Fridge was being belligerent and because he had to turn his back to get his ticket book and check on the radio if she had any arrest warrants. Ultimately, Fridge was released and ticketed for disorderly conduct, a Class C misdemeanor. She can pay a fine or appear in court to contest the citation. State law says the use of abusive, indecent, profane or vulgar language in a public place, which causes an "immediate breach of the peace," meets the definition of disorderly conduct. Because the municipal court case is pending, Decker cannot comment on the matter, Zacherl said. Three days later, Fridge went to the La Marque Fire Department to speak with the fire chief and was given forms to make a complaint. She hasn't made an official complaint, but says she will contact a lawyer before deciding whether to pursue one. "I'm not out to sue or get money — I just want them to drop this ticket," Fridge said Wednesday. "Yes, I probably shouldn't have cussed in public, but he took it way too far." Zacherl said the assistant fire marshal had no choice. "When you're in uniform, you have to uphold the laws," the fire chief said. "It's like if he was on the way home and saw a drunk driver — he had to act." Public reaction Decker is certified by the state of Texas as firefighter, peace officer, fire investigator and fire inspector. His fire department uniform also says "investigator," Zacherl said. Zacherl said he has received about 15 phone calls from people reacting to the incident. Several accused the assistant fire marshal of abusing his power, but most calls have been positive, Zacherl said. "The rest (of the phone calls) are, 'Thank you, thank you, thank you,' " Zacherl said. __________________ Hi.

08-31-2008, 07:14 PM	#43 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	Should i laugh or cry? __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

08-31-2008, 09:50 PM	#44 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	That is the most retarded and overtly biased piece of bullshit I've read in a while. It wasn't funny or enlightening at all. It just makes me sad that people still think that way. __________________ first.am

08-31-2008, 11:44 PM	#46 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	You'd be just as biased and culturally depraved as the author, then. Learn to embrace foreign cultures. It will do you some good. __________________ first.am

09-01-2008, 12:37 AM	#48 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	And I hate generic emo music in all its forms, but I will at least grudgingly acknowledge it as music. But rap and hip-hop spawned from an African-American counterculture that fomented in the eighties. It wasn't a bunch of guys that desperately wanted to make money, but people who used their vocal emissions to express themselves. Saying that it isn't music is self-deprecating and ignorant. __________________ first.am

08-31-2008, 11:34 PM	#45 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	I agree, rap isn't music.

08-31-2008, 11:49 PM	#47 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	I wouldn't use the term culturally depraved. I just really hate rap, and hip-hop. Even at the height of the style it still sounds like garbage. I find even Sugar Hill Gang impossible to enjoy.