The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[rubber soul]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

I'm not saying they didn't (at least, some of them) but when you're a part of the problem then apologising and sympathising with the victims/families seems very disingenuous to me. Look at it this way: you kill someone because you're drunk while driving. You go to the funeral, apologise to the family. You're genuinely contrite and sincere. Do you think your words comfort them, or are they instead thinking "if it wasn't for you my loved one would still be alive?"

I think it would be more like the family would say he wasn't contrite; burn the bastard. At least it seems that way in the courtroom.


I still look back on Reagan's words after the Challenger disaster (It's one of the very few things I give him kudos for), and see that as the gold standard for presidential words of sympathy. And while Obama might have gotten us into a couple scrapes during his term, he didn't cause Sandy Hook which might have been his moment. It's a little harder to separate the other Presidents such as Bush who might have been using tragic events (9/11) for his own global policy (Overthrowing Hussein), but I can't believe they were bad people deep inside (the book's still out on the Clintons).

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Because people who've just had their hearts and souls ripped out will take any shoulder offered to cry on. And the POTUS is a big ****ing shoulder.

With everyone and their mother sending truckloads of thoughts and prayers, I think that shoulder duty is covered. Plus, I have a feeling that these kids would feel a lot better if Trump actually did something to prevent issues like this in the future than if he uttered platitudes at them.

Sincerity is not the point.

You're the smartest guy I know, Chula.

Originally Posted by rubber soul

I guess it depends on the President. Someone like Reagan or Obama tended to come off as genuine while someone like Clinton maybe you wondered if he was pandering for votes. I don't know who was sincere or not with the possible exception of Trump who's an absolute nitwit who doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. Anyway, I like to think that most of the Presidents (even Clinton) meant well when they offered sympathies.

They're ****ing politicians. Even if they did feel something resembling sympathy in their chest cavity, it's pandering for votes every time.

[rubber soul]

Originally Posted by Frownland

They're ****ing politicians. Even if they did feel something resembling sympathy in their chest cavity, it's pandering for votes every time.

Yeah, but even politicians are human, albeit somewhat flawed.

[Frownland]

They're. ****ing. Politicians. Don't associate humanity with them.

[OccultHawk]

I didn’t know some English people were upset with the queen when Lady Di died. She loses a family member then the public ****s on her lol

That’s a good one

I’m sure a lot of people would rather the president **** off when this **** happens

That’s why they vet people first

I figure that’s been the M.O. since around Lincoln (should mo be capitalized?)

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Yeah, but even politicians are human, albeit somewhat flawed.

I think you’re underestimating what a calculating **** you have to be to end up with that much power

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Look at it this way: you kill someone because you're drunk while driving. You go to the funeral, apologise to the family. You're genuinely contrite and sincere. Do you think your words comfort them, or are they instead thinking "if it wasn't for you my loved one would still be alive?"

Perfect analogy Troll.......

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Perfect analogy Troll.......

Aren't you the one who cries at Democratic political rallies? You're a ****ing sap, dude. People like you keep people in office.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're a ****ing sap, dude.

Go drink some piss you armpit stain.

[Frownland]

Bad advice. Drinking piss always just puts me into a worse mood.