The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

My guess is that Trump was the (or one of) unwitting one(s) given that he really isn't that smart.

Ya think?

Reasonable doubt?

It was the first time that Trump had explicitly tied the Russia probe to his rationale for firing Comey. It was one of a series of explanations for dismissing the FBI director, some of which directly contradict those offered earlier by top White House officials.

Trump told NBC's Lester Holt: "And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said 'you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won'."

That’s obstruction of justice and against the law. When a Man breaks law and admits it he gets arrested unless the investigator is a pussy.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I expected Trump to be arrested when he admitted he broke the law by obstructing justice when he confessed on national TV that’s exactly why he fired Comey. That’s the ****ing starting point. You arrest the confessed criminal and go from there. You don’t spend months and months investigating **** that’s less serious than what the mother****er already confessed to.

For a cynic you're surprisingly naive if you thought there was ever any hope of this happening. Even I, with my one piece of knowledge about US politics (there are two parties, right?) did not expect that to ever come to pass. Nor will it.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

When trying to take down a sitting US President you better go slow and be 1000% sure what you have is going to be bulletproof.

Watergate break-in happened on June 17, 1972.

Nixon stepped down on August 9, 1974.

That's 26 months.

Mueller's investigation is only 9 months old.

There’s no point taking him down unless you remove him from office before his ****ing term ends.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

For a cynic you're surprisingly naive if you thought there was ever any hope of this happening. Even I, with my one piece of knowledge about US politics (there are two parties, right?) did not expect that to ever come to pass. Nor will it.

Dude

It’s not that I don’t know that. I’m pointing out that Mueller is part of the problem not the solution.

Mueller needs to hang right next to Trump. Tie Comey’s bitch ass up there, too.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Ya think?

Reasonable doubt?

Absolutely. Comey had clearly politicized the FBI with his memos and Trump said that that was the key driver in his reasoning. Boom. Reasonable doubt.

That’s obstruction of justice and against the law. When a Man breaks law and admits it he gets arrested unless the investigator is a pussy.

Ditching due process is infinitely more fascist than anything Trump has even considered.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

There’s no point taking him down unless you remove him from office before his ****ing term ends.

His first term doesn't end for another 34 months......



Mueller is being very methodical and ratcheting up the heat a little bit at a time. Today's indictment took things from a simmer to a mild boil.

[Frownland]

Can I get a copy of Mueller's diary?

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Absolutely. Comey had clearly politicized the FBI with his memos and Trump said that that was the key driver in his reasoning. Boom. Reasonable doubt.



Ditching due process is infinitely more fascist than anything Trump has even considered.

Reasonable doubt and due process are for the TRIAL. The ****er hasn’t even been arrested.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Reasonable doubt and due process are for the TRIAL. The ****er hasn’t even been arrested.

Due process absolutely involves the arrest but you're right, I concede.

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Absolutely. Comey had clearly politicized the FBI with his memos and Trump said that that was the key driver in his reasoning. Boom. Reasonable doubt.



Ditching due process is infinitely more fascist than anything Trump has even considered.

Definitely not more fascist, but in the same ballpark for sure. As much as I don't like Trump, I'd rather that they could prove without a shadow of a doubt that he was actively working against the FBI in a direct way, or working with Russia to get himself elected. I don't expect to see Trump go down at this rate, not unless there's a bombshell that hasn't been uncovered yet (which is a real possibility, but not probable), but I think his credibility is being destroyed with Republican voters, and I do think that new standards will be enforced.

I don't think he'll run for a second term because he knows he'd get destroyed by a competent opponent, and I don't think his ego could handle a defeat like that.