The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

Chula Vista · 02-16-2018, 03:46 PM

Mueller's special counsel indicts 13 Russians for tampering in the 2016 US election.

From the indictment:

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"Defendant ORGANIZATION had a strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates, and by early to mid-2016, Defendants' operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ("Trump Campaign") and disparaging Hillary Clinton. Defendants made various expenditures to carry out those activities, including buying political advertisements on social media in the names of U.S. persons and entities. Defendants also staged political rallies inside the United States, and while posing as U.S. grassroots entities and U.S. persons, and without revealing their Russian identities and ORGANIZATION affiliation, solicited and compensated real U.S. persons to promote or disparage candidates. Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities."

Gonna be more plea deals worked out in the next couple of months.

Michael Flynn: deal made
Richard Pinedo: deal made
George Papadopoulos: deal made
Rick Gates: deal in the works
Paul Manafort: about to be charged with contempt. Plea deal to follow.
Jared Kushner: TBD
Donald Trump Jr.: TBD

Trollheart · 02-16-2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Mueller's special counsel indicts 13 Russians for tampering in the 2016 US election.

From the indictment:

And in reality, what's likely to happen? I'm not being facetious; I actually want to know if this means anything or if it's another non-event that Trump and his acolytes will sweep under the carpet of the White House?

**Frownland** · 02-16-2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

And in reality, what's likely to happen? I'm not being facetious; I actually want to know if this means anything or if it's another non-event that Trump and his acolytes will sweep under the carpet of the White House?

World War III between the US and Russia.

OccultHawk · 02-16-2018, 04:03 PM

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is great at doing a bunch of worthless bull**** that adds up to nothing.

If this were a murder investigation it would go like this:

They found the victim shot
They identified the gun
The identified the owner of the gun
They found gunshot residue of the suspects hands
The suspect was found urinating on the grave of the victim
The suspect posts video footage of the victim dying on Facebook
Investigator interviews suspects mother
Investigator arrests someone who met the suspect three years ago
Media celebrates

**Frownland** · 02-16-2018, 04:04 PM

What did you expect to come of it?

Chula Vista · 02-16-2018, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

And in reality, what's likely to happen? I'm not being facetious; I actually want to know if this means anything or if it's another non-event that Trump and his acolytes will sweep under the carpet of the White House?

Russia will, of course, not extradite any of the 13 who are citizens. I think this is simply a strong signal being sent to the folks involved on our end by the special counsel.

Note the wording of part of the idictment: "Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign."

Unwitting is a clear signal to folks like Kushner, Manafort, and Jr., that Mueller knows a ton, but is giving them some breathing room for now so they'll opt for a plea deal.

He's giving them some rope. Pretty sure none of them will be willing to hang themselves on "The Donald's" behalf.

**Frownland** · 02-16-2018, 04:08 PM

My guess is that Trump was the (or one of) unwitting one(s) given that he really isn't that smart.

OccultHawk · 02-16-2018, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What did you expect to come of it?

I expected Trump to be arrested when he admitted he broke the law by obstructing justice when he confessed on national TV that’s exactly why he fired Comey. That’s the ****ing starting point. You arrest the confessed criminal and go from there. You don’t spend months and months investigating **** that’s less serious than what the mother****er already confessed to.

**Frownland** · 02-16-2018, 04:13 PM

There's actually a reason for that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_doubt

Have you ever heard of Al Capone?

Chula Vista · 02-16-2018, 04:21 PM

When trying to take down a sitting US President you better go slow and be 1000% sure what you have is going to be bulletproof.

Watergate break-in happened on June 17, 1972.

Nixon stepped down on August 9, 1974.

That's 26 months.

Mueller's investigation is only 9 months old.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	What did you expect to come of it? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	My guess is that Trump was the (or one of) unwitting one(s) given that he really isn't that smart. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

02-16-2018, 04:13 PM	#9809 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	There's actually a reason for that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_doubt Have you ever heard of Al Capone? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

02-16-2018, 04:21 PM	#9810 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	When trying to take down a sitting US President you better go slow and be 1000% sure what you have is going to be bulletproof. Watergate break-in happened on June 17, 1972. Nixon stepped down on August 9, 1974. That's 26 months. Mueller's investigation is only 9 months old. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”