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Old 02-15-2018, 10:23 AM   #9741 (permalink)
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Several different issues to discuss. Of course gun laws, but more importantly why the **** are we doing it? Cause you can't just blame guns. This is much more complicated than just guns.
It would be pretty hard to kill that many people with a knife.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:29 AM   #9742 (permalink)
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It would be pretty hard to kill that many people with a knife.
I’m not sure if lucem is pro or anti gun control but I think what he’s saying is we’re witnessing a manifestation of hate and human hatred is ultimately the most serious threat.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:31 AM   #9743 (permalink)
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I’m not sure if lucem is pro or anti gun control but I think what he’s saying is we’re witnessing a manifestation of hate and human hatred is ultimately the most serious threat.
I understand what he's saying. I'm just saying that access to guns is what turns the thoughts into reality for those people.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:47 AM   #9744 (permalink)
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I understand what he's saying. I'm just saying that access to guns is what turns the thoughts into reality for those people.
I'm with Jansz.
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She was probably just looking for any way to get his ass out of the house.
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Old 02-15-2018, 01:02 PM   #9747 (permalink)
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the problem of gun violence is solved with less guns yes
I know this comment is often either used facetiously or from the far - uh whatever- but seriously - can we start by disarming the world’s governments?
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Old 02-15-2018, 01:50 PM   #9748 (permalink)
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the problem of gun violence is solved with less guns yes
But the problem isn't just gun violence, is my point.
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I can see the merits of the libertarian arguments for gun ownership what gets ridiculous is the denial that guns have anything to do with gun violence

if you want to make an argument for gun ownership you should have to say I'm willing to accept this many extra deaths a year for this right
In my case I’m not making a libertarian argument for gun ownership. I’m making an earnest plea for complete disarmament. All mankind, all weapons. I’m taking the strongest anti-gun stance possible.

FTR, I haven’t heard anyone anywhere take this stance- scoff or whatever but I’m NOT reporting from an echo chamber.
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