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Old 02-01-2018, 06:26 AM   #9541 (permalink)
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This is interesting. Weren't some of the concentration camps in Poland? Aren't they just splitting hairs here? And are they not missing the point about the Holocaust? Wasn't us, we didn't do it, we were forced. I don't think anyone has ever accused Poles of running the camps; they were always seen as part of the German system, but they were definitely in Poland. Comments? Thoughts?

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Old 02-01-2018, 06:52 AM   #9542 (permalink)
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It’s a puss ass law by Poland but they’re an autonomous state. Israel neneds to mind its own business.

As for your other question, if Auschwitz was in Ireland wouldn’t you feel like you guys pussed out a bit?
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Old 02-01-2018, 09:11 AM   #9543 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's an unnecessary law. As far as Polish complicity goes, you may want to read the graphic novel, Maus, by Art Speigelman. It is about how his family dealt with the holocaust in Poland and you can see how some Poles were complicit, not out of evil (though there was some anti-Semitism as well), but basically for their own survival. It had to have been a living nightmare then.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:36 AM   #9544 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's an unnecessary law. As far as Polish complicity goes, you may want to read the graphic novel, Maus, by Art Speigelman. It is about how his family dealt with the holocaust in Poland and you can see how some Poles were complicit, not out of evil (though there was some anti-Semitism as well), but basically for their own survival. It had to have been a living nightmare then.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:58 AM   #9545 (permalink)
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we can't have a Trump thread anymore so my take on the current gridlock is going here

unfortunately democrats should give Trump his stupid wall in exchange for a path to citizenship for DACA

it's absolutely despicable that anyone would put a gun to the head of these people's lives as a method of bargaining, but ultimately The Wall is a symbolic waste of money while DACA is Americans being shipped to foreign countries
No man. Those campaign rallies where hordes of people chanted anti-Mexican jargon in unison was some of the scariest most Hitlery **** I’ve ever lived through. 25 billion for a monument to hatred? No ****ing way. **** no. No. ****ing no, man.

When ICE comes after people they need to be treated how the Gestapo should have been treated. They need to be killed. You don’t just let them come and collect Anne Frank. **** the law. No compromise on either issue.

Don’t underestimate what a powerful win even a non-built symbolic allocations of funds would be for white supremacy. Dude, it cannot happen. We can’t let it happen. There’s **** you don’t compromise on. There’s **** you don’t get blackmailed over. You don’t negotiate with terrorists.

Man, I’ve been starting to hear this from the left. Goddamnit man you cannot compromise with this evil ****. Don’t give him the campaign leverage. Protect the Dreamers by fortifying sanctuary cities. We’re not using billions and billions of dollars to build a giant monument to hatred that was the cornerstone to the most despicable successful political campaign in American history. Stay with me here elph. Please man.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:03 AM   #9546 (permalink)
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unfortunately democrats should give Trump his stupid wall in exchange for a path to citizenship for DACA
His path to citizenship is self described as a reward incentive for 10-12 more years of “doing great”
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I don't know if I can stand for democrats floating these people's lives to win a political fight
Don’t let the right force that false narrative on you. No compromise on either.

If the Dreamers aren’t given citizenship for the remainder of his term they can be used as blackmail on every budget. A 12 year path to potential citizenship. That’s ****ing garbage. Please see through this ****. Oh well, I know you won’t. Trump continues to win.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:21 AM   #9548 (permalink)
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if the details of this are not acceptable then they should push for something better

Trump really wants this stupid wall, democrats should use that rather than telling the people up for round up, "well I guess arm yourself"
The Dems aren’t supposed to say it; anarchists are supposed to do it.

Give Trump his wall? You ****ing disgust me.
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:27 AM   #9549 (permalink)
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let the protests happen over the wall rather than a gestapo round up
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