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rubber soul 02-01-2018 08:11 AM

Yeah, it's an unnecessary law. As far as Polish complicity goes, you may want to read the graphic novel, Maus, by Art Speigelman. It is about how his family dealt with the holocaust in Poland and you can see how some Poles were complicit, not out of evil (though there was some anti-Semitism as well), but basically for their own survival. It had to have been a living nightmare then.

Janszoon 02-01-2018 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1922533)
Yeah, it's an unnecessary law. As far as Polish complicity goes, you may want to read the graphic novel, Maus, by Art Speigelman. It is about how his family dealt with the holocaust in Poland and you can see how some Poles were complicit, not out of evil (though there was some anti-Semitism as well), but basically for their own survival. It had to have been a living nightmare then.

Maus is great!

OccultHawk 02-01-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1922562)
we can't have a Trump thread anymore so my take on the current gridlock is going here

unfortunately democrats should give Trump his stupid wall in exchange for a path to citizenship for DACA

it's absolutely despicable that anyone would put a gun to the head of these people's lives as a method of bargaining, but ultimately The Wall is a symbolic waste of money while DACA is Americans being shipped to foreign countries

No man. Those campaign rallies where hordes of people chanted anti-Mexican jargon in unison was some of the scariest most Hitlery **** I’ve ever lived through. 25 billion for a monument to hatred? No ****ing way. **** no. No. ****ing no, man.

When ICE comes after people they need to be treated how the Gestapo should have been treated. They need to be killed. You don’t just let them come and collect Anne Frank. **** the law. No compromise on either issue.

Don’t underestimate what a powerful win even a non-built symbolic allocations of funds would be for white supremacy. Dude, it cannot happen. We can’t let it happen. There’s **** you don’t compromise on. There’s **** you don’t get blackmailed over. You don’t negotiate with terrorists.

Man, I’ve been starting to hear this from the left. Goddamnit man you cannot compromise with this evil ****. Don’t give him the campaign leverage. Protect the Dreamers by fortifying sanctuary cities. We’re not using billions and billions of dollars to build a giant monument to hatred that was the cornerstone to the most despicable successful political campaign in American history. Stay with me here elph. Please man.

OccultHawk 02-01-2018 10:03 AM

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unfortunately democrats should give Trump his stupid wall in exchange for a path to citizenship for DACA
His path to citizenship is self described as a reward incentive for 10-12 more years of “doing great”

OccultHawk 02-01-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1922575)
I don't know if I can stand for democrats floating these people's lives to win a political fight

Don’t let the right force that false narrative on you. No compromise on either.

If the Dreamers aren’t given citizenship for the remainder of his term they can be used as blackmail on every budget. A 12 year path to potential citizenship. That’s ****ing garbage. Please see through this ****. Oh well, I know you won’t. Trump continues to win.

OccultHawk 02-01-2018 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1922576)
if the details of this are not acceptable then they should push for something better

Trump really wants this stupid wall, democrats should use that rather than telling the people up for round up, "well I guess arm yourself"

The Dems aren’t supposed to say it; anarchists are supposed to do it.

Give Trump his wall? You ****ing disgust me.

The Batlord 02-01-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1922575)
I don't know if I can stand for democrats floating these people's lives to win a political fight

let the protests happen over the wall rather than a gestapo round up

Peace in our time!

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OccultHawk 02-01-2018 10:28 AM

I really had hope for you.

The Batlord 02-01-2018 10:29 AM

I say let LA become an urban, house-to-house warzone with immigration officials being hung from lamp posts. The right needs to see what happens when you go into neighborhoods and start kicking down doors.

OccultHawk 02-01-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1922587)

I was going to say that exact same thing.


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