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Old 01-10-2018, 03:18 PM   #9171 (permalink)
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Re: Oppression

In a system where "the system" makes laws geared towards aiding the rich and not the poor, aren't those who can't afford to make ends meet in regards to food and shelter, can't afford decent physical and mental health care, and are basically kicked to the curb by society OPPRESSED?

But I digress. I'm really glad you are happy and content with your place in the economic spectrum - **** of from all of us who aren't because the system ****ed us over.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:25 PM   #9172 (permalink)
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how could you live in this dimension and not see how wealth of any level will grant you more freedoms than those without
Its hard to answer your question without agreeing on what you mean when you say freedom. Its also hard to argue against when your misrepresenting me.

Lets try this: would you also argue that pharmaceutical treatments are inherently bad or is it the way the system uses them that creates problems?

Wealth in and of itself is not oppresive within a system that does not allow for it.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:31 PM   #9173 (permalink)
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Lets try this: would you also argue that pharmaceutical treatments are inherently bad or is it the way the system uses them that creates problems?
I think I get what you're saying here but it seems like a bit of a false equivalency. Money doesn't work without a system that supports it which makes separating it from those systems a misnomer. A pharmaceutical treatment is consistent whether it's administered once or one million times.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:34 PM   #9174 (permalink)
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You're not gonna win this one, DwnWthVwls. Frown has a +10 against Jersey Logic. Plus, with Chula as his wingfish, he can call in a Boston Boys support squad.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:39 PM   #9175 (permalink)
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I think I get what you're saying here but it seems like a bit of a false equivalency. Money doesn't work without a system that supports it which makes separating it from those systems a misnomer. A pharmaceutical treatment is consistent whether it's administered once or one million times.
so youre arguing its impossible to set up a system where wealth is not oppressive? I dont see how you could make that claim, but if you were to demonstrate it id be willing to change my position.
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so youre arguing its impossible to set up a system where wealth is not oppressive? I dont see how you could make that claim, but if you were to demonstrate it id be willing to change my position.
Do you have an example that shows that it is possible or at least one that gets close? Because as far as I know money=influence and power every time it was around.
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Yes, but power =/= oppression. Oppression is multifaceted and while money may certainly be a driving force, it is definitely not the only variable.

And I don't have the burden of proof. I'm not convinced of the claim that wealth = oppression.
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Yes, but power =/= oppression. Oppression is multifaceted and while money may certainly be a driving force, it is definitely not the only variable.

And I don't have the burden of proof. I'm not convinced of the claim that wealth = oppression.
I added influence as an edit.

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I already aknowledged that i accept the power money can buy within our system.
I don't think that this is exclusive to our current system but rather that it's ubiquitous across every system that we've attempted that involved money. The burden of proof is now on you to show a system that successfully separates power and wealth.

I suppose that the real disagreement here might be that an ever-present opportunity for oppression isn't the same as oppression and I guess that comes down to opinion.
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