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01-02-2018, 06:48 PM | #8991 (permalink) |
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Okay guys, we can do hypothetical scenarios out the wazoo, but we're getting nowhere. We can either agree to disagree that you are not entitled to the labor of another person against their will, or we can keep arguing. You're coming at it from a gender/sex rights POV and I'm coming from a basic civil liberties view.
I can bottom line this. THE BAKERY WAS WRONG FOR DENYING THE GAY COUPLE A WEDDING CAKE. But, it should be the bakery's right to make the call. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. |
01-02-2018, 06:54 PM | #8993 (permalink) |
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The fact that you think this stance can only be held because someone supports LGBT rights only reveals how you formed your own opinion on the subject. My stance extends to everyone because that's how equal rights work, don't dismiss that because I also support LGBT rights.
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01-02-2018, 06:54 PM | #8994 (permalink) |
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Yep. That would be denial based on someone's actions so it's not discrimination. How is that at all similar?
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01-02-2018, 07:14 PM | #8997 (permalink) | |
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As per religious beliefs: those are respected until they affect the rights of others. As previously established, abridging privileges is the same as denying rights, so if your religious beliefs get in the way of someone else's rights as discussed in this scenario, then you do not have the right to own a business. Separate is inherently unequal. You don't have to have sex to be gay. New rule: no more false equivalencies. Guess we gotta end it here for you huh.
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01-02-2018, 07:23 PM | #9000 (permalink) |
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I get your point, I just disagree with it. Are you confused by mine? I'm doing my best to make it pretty clear.
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