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Old 12-27-2017, 03:32 PM   #8801 (permalink)
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Oh ja I know I was just being jokey. I've even heard the sentiment here.
Thanks for not *unfortunately -ing me.
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Old 12-27-2017, 03:33 PM   #8802 (permalink)
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:44 PM   #8803 (permalink)
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If someone doesn't want to associate with others based upon their gender or sexual orientation, that is their decision. It may not be a GOOD decision, but they have the right to make it. For you to say that they don't have that right is ridiculous.
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No they don't
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if they own a legit business with a license sanctioned by the government that represents everyone, they don't get to choose without having a valid reason, which being black, gay, short, ugly or homeless is not.
There you go, add extra parameters after the fact. Also, the government forcing you to do things is a slippery slope. Ever heard of slavery?

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You are literally arguing for discrimination here.
No, I'm arguing for personal freedom. You have the right to be gay or stupid or a zionist. I have the right to tell you to fuck off [not that I would, just an example]. May not be the best policy, but it is the right of humans to discriminate.

People discriminate every day. You see a shadowy teen in an oversized coat walking toward you in the middle of the night on the sidewalk. You switch sides. BOOM! Discrimination.

The waitress asks you if you want tea or lemonade. You say tea. BOOM! Discrimination.

And the leprosy thing is mot a false equivalence. Using big words doesn't make you right LOL. But nice try.

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Exactly. It's not like I'm hunting them down for it.

ENDPOINT: I may not like the way you practice your freedom, but I will fight for you to have it. I will fight equally for someone to have the right to be gay just as hard as I will fight for someone to call them a faggot.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:47 PM   #8804 (permalink)
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MERIT. You've devolved overnight and are coming off quite badly with your input today.
Well, I could tell you how 20 of my family members feel about the issue and regale you with stories about them, but that would be counterproductive in this instance.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:55 PM   #8805 (permalink)
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No, I'm arguing for personal freedom.
And those freedoms end when you infringe on someone else's. You likened being grossed out to being accepted. Sounds like some discrimination to me.

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You have the right to be gay or stupid or a zionist.
You have the right to be a chicken, a duck, or a brain surgeon.

About the same level of false equivalency I think.


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I have the right to tell you to fuck off [not that I would, just an example].
Depends on the scenario. Are you telling me to **** off for being gay and eating in your restaurant? Because that's unacceptable and you should have your business shut down for something like that.

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May not be the best policy, but it is the right of humans to discriminate.
So you are defending discrimination.

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People discriminate every day. You see a shadowy teen in an oversized coat walking toward you in the middle of the night on the sidewalk. You switch sides. BOOM! Discrimination.
Nice surface level talking point. Gauging a scenario is far different from treating people differently for things that aren't in their control.

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The waitress asks you if you want tea or lemonade. You say tea. BOOM! Discrimination.
I don't get it. You think that preference is discrimination?

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And the leprosy thing is mot a false equivalence. Using big words doesn't make you right LOL. But nice try.
Sorry, I thought most people would know what it means. Here's a link:

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ENDPOINT: I may not like the way you practice your freedom, but I will fight for you to have it. I will fight equally for someone to have the right to be gay just as hard as I will fight for someone to call them a faggot.
Ja you're pretty much just someone who wants to call people a ***got then. People who would act so aggressively for something so innocent should not be a part of society so idk, round them up and put them in camps? Get some saunas.
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Are you telling me to **** off for being gay and eating in your restaurant? Because that's unacceptable and you should have your business shut down for something like that.
But people SHOULD have the right to discriminate. And why would you want to dine in a place that doesn't want you there? Take your business elsewhere, as will others, and the free market will sort itself out. And as long as you are not physically harming another, who cares? If someone discriminated against me for being a certain ethnicity or sexual orientation, I would tell them to fuck off. Not whine about my rights being infringed. Grow a pair.


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So you are defending discrimination.
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Nice surface level talking point. Gauging a scenario is far different from treating people differently for things that aren't in their control.
Like leprosy?
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:08 PM   #8807 (permalink)
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But people SHOULD have the right to discriminate.

And why would you want to dine in a place that doesn't want you there? Take your business elsewhere, as will others, and the free market will sort itself out. And as long as you are not physically harming another, who cares? If someone discriminated against me for being a certain ethnicity or sexual orientation, I would tell them to fuck off. Not whine about my rights being infringed. Grow a pair.


Replace sexual orientation with race and you'll find that you are making quite the unamerican point. What do you do if every place in town discriminates against you because of what you do in private? Grow a pair of brain cells and slit those people's throats. Free market gonna get you killed.

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There you go, add extra parameters after the fact. Also, the government forcing you to do things is a slippery slope. Ever heard of slavery?
You're making it sound like your right to, in your private life, not associate with gay people or black people is being effected and it isn't. I think that's your main obstacle here, is that you think because there are rules that you don't like, your lifestyle is danger of somehow being taken away.
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But people SHOULD have the right to discriminate. And why would you want to dine in a place that doesn't want you there? Take your business elsewhere, as will others, and the free market will sort itself out. And as long as you are not physically harming another, who cares? If someone discriminated against me for being a certain ethnicity or sexual orientation, I would tell them to fuck off. Not whine about my rights being infringed. Grow a pair.
Never before in my life have I seen someone contradict themselves so many times in the span of 24 hours. Do you approve or disapprove of discrimination? Are you complaining about discrimination, or do you dislike people who complain about discrimination? Is the employer firing your ass for being a racist ******* "the free market sorting itself out" or no? All things you should stop and consider before you hit that reply button.
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you think because there are rules that you don't like, your lifestyle is danger of somehow being taken away.
You just proved my point. Say there is a gay person being discriminated against. That discrimination is legal. Just because they don't appreciate that discrimination, they wrongly think that their lifestyle is in danger of being taken away.
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