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Old 11-05-2017, 07:32 PM   #7911 (permalink)
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I think it's generally possible to deduce when you have a lone nutso gunman and when you have someone tied to an organization with specific outlined political goals
Yet, at the end of the day you're still left with a bunch of bloody corpses of men, women, and children.

Again, that's the terror.

P.S. Since the Diversity Immigrant Visa program was started 27 years ago it's estimated that over 2.7 million immigrants have attained US citizenship.

1 / 2.7 million = .000037%

That's like 37 cents out of a million dollars.

Yet Trump and his cult want to blame the program for NYC, shut it down, and try to fire up the muslim ban again.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:35 PM   #7912 (permalink)
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You've been told already why one is being called terrorism and why the others aren't. You're just unwilling to accept it.

What elph posted is the reason guys are getting confused and working themselves up over it all, because you think terrorism that kills say five people is by default worse than a mass shooting that kills fifty.

lol at having to wiki the definition of terrorism btw
1. Wiki is a good source to find a nice and tidy definition on short notice so **** off.

2. I am not confused. Simply sick of the political hypocrasy. So **** off.

3. I've been given someone else's opinion on why. I don't agree with it. Has nothing to do with acceptance. I don't accept hypocrasy. So **** off.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:37 PM   #7913 (permalink)
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****. 27 shot dead in church is terrorism as much as New Wave Hookers is porn.
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"Terrorism" could have been an actual useful word if it hadn't become a synonym for violent, radical muslims. This whole battle between Islamophobes and those who oppose them over the use of the word "terrorism" is idiotic tbh. The only definition that isn't pointless afaic and isn't just a sleight-of-hand to talk about muslims would be a description of the kind of non-state organizations that would apply to both Al Qaeda and the IRA. Even these lone wolf, politically motivated muslim "terrorists" shouldn't be labeled terrorists imo, because unless they're actually affiliated with a terrorist organization, calling them terrorists only serves to give the false impression in the eyes of much of the public, both that they are actually affiliated with a terrorist organization, and that muslims are just terrorists waiting to happen. They're gonna get that impression anyway, but there's no need to help them along when it doesn't even serve a purpose.
Nailed and nailed. Two sides of the same coin I'm peddling.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:37 PM   #7914 (permalink)
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Yet, at the end of the day you're still left with a bunch of bloody corpses of men, women, and children.

Again, that's the terror.

P.S. Since the Diversity Immigrant Visa program was started 27 years ago it's estimated that over 2.7 million immigrants have attained US citizenship.

1 / 2.7 million = .000037%

That's like 37 cents out of a million dollars.

Yet Trump and his cult want to blame the program for NYC, shut it down, and try to fire up the muslim ban again.
You are a pissant. Somehow you manage to take all of this, interpret it with all the nuance of a 7-year-old, and then bring it all back to your personal, pet ax to grind. Go back to debating with your ignorant friends and family on Facebook.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:40 PM   #7915 (permalink)
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**** off.
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**** off.
You could at least tell me to **** off with a cutting remark. Now I feel like I just wasted my time. Which I did.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:55 PM   #7918 (permalink)
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You could at least tell me to **** off with a cutting remark. Now I feel like I just wasted my time. Which I did.
I looked up the word pissant before replying to remind myself of the definition. I felt it would have been cruel to remark at you cuttingly. Figured **** off would suffice. Sorry to disappoint.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:57 PM   #7919 (permalink)
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I looked up the word pissant before replying to remind myself of the definition. I felt it would have been cruel to remark at you cuttingly. Figured **** off would suffice. Sorry to disappoint.
I'll bet it was to remind yourself.
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I argued basically the same position as Chula after LV. Everyone disagreed with me but it didn’t turn into all this. What is it about Chula that’s so triggering?
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