The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I do believe it is only one gradual step in a process of evolving towards more and more democracy

the next ought to be moving towards democratic work places for instance

Honestly I don't think humanity in its current form is capable of it without an inordinate amount of cultural evolution that will inevitably include hundreds of years of strife and ups and downs that will hold us back for god knows how long. Post-human seems like the most efficient answer with increasing a human's mental capacity to just think and understand.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

eminem still trying to cling to his bit of relevancy i see. if you make a song about Donald Trump in 2018 chances are you're either a money loving sellout looking for an easy target or... well, no. you're a money loving sellout looking for an easy target.

That diss track against Trump was horrible. I understand the sentiments behind it, but coming from Em, I expected it to be way better.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

there is essentially no difference between voting for the lesser of two evils and being a stooge for the establishment.

#QuotedForTruth

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Would America be better off with Trump or no president at all?

Would it be like the Hydra? Cut off one head and two grow in its place?

Originally Posted by elphenor

the notion that democracy and anarchy are not compatible is strange

anarchy as a tradition is very much a school of democracy

keep in mind representative democracy does not have a monopoly on the concept

Democracy is bullshit. You have 100 people. 51 vote that everyone jumps off a cliff, 49 vote against it. Therefor, everyone jumps off a cliff. Makes perfect sense [/sarcasm]

Anarchy is only a school of democracy insofar as people get fed up with democracy and turn to anarchy.

It pisses me off when people refer to the U.S. as a "democracy." It is a constitutionally-limited democratic REPUBLIC.

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I would just like to commend those of you who are fed up with the status quo and realize that we need change. That is the first step. You guys make fun of me and call me a crack-pot, but it's motherfuckers like me, conspiracy theorist or otherwise, that affect positive change.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's not about morals but pragmatism, and I get that you're not making a moral argument, but the facts of history do not support the idea that humanity can so quickly (as in the last 200 years) switch from tyranny to democracy in an efficient and long term manner. I do believe that democracy, or at least some derivative probably based in post-human ****, is the endgame, but what we have now has not proven to be feasible.

What do you propose then Einstein? And make it something that stands a chance of actually working - starting from where we are today and assuming where your idea would lead us 30 years from now.

Remember to factor in foxes and henhouses.

And I'm french canadian numbnuts.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

What do you propose then Einstein? And make it something that stands a chance of actually working - starting from where we are today and assuming where your idea would lead us 30 years from now.

Remember to factor in foxes and henhouses.

And I'm french canadian numbnuts.

That's the whole point, dickweed. We are tree-climbing apes with delusions of grandeur. This is all a ****house of nonsense that is not going to get solved in anything resembling the immediate future, but that doesn't mean that we should settle for the non-****tiest solution we can come up with now in the short term. Doing that shows a complete lack, not of just imagination, but of the desire to use your imagination. And the human race as a whole shows this trait of short-sighted idiocy that is the reason why the banking corporations that were obsessed with quarterly profits ran our economy into the ground because they weren't looking to any long term plan.

You think you're accomplishing anything worthwhile with that same tiny vision? You're just compounding the problem by passing the buck onto a generation you'll be too dead to see, but hey, at least your mortgage will be a bit more affordable or whatever. And that's what's important, right? The next six months? I mean of course the next six months are important, but you clearly have no ****ing idea what the **** you are doing beyond the next election cycle and yet you think you have any business having any opinion on humanity's future?

You are an idiot the same as at ****ing least 95% of the rest of mankind (not even an insult so don't be whiny and take it as such), and yet your opinion is worth more than a damn? Get the **** over yourself. Your opinion is worth nothing. Your wife's opinion is worth nothing. Your children's opinions are worth nothing. Your grandchildren's opinions will be worth nothing. Almost none of our opinions are worth anything. We are all retards playing at god when the next 100 or 1000 years are so beyond our ability to understand that the human race is basically playing Russian roulette with our future every time we cast a ballot.

This is garbage, and I honestly don't see how anything can make it not garbage until we all have computer chips installed into our brains that can actually calculate things like economics to the point that anyone can actually make a truly informed decision as to how to deal with economics. But by all means pretend that your Irish working class Boston ass has any idea what in god's name you are even doing, and that any vote you cast will have any intelligent and useful effect on our society 100 years from now.

Humanity is collectively stupid as far as the scale of 7 billion people is concerned and we will be lucky to actually survive as a species for another 10,000 years, assuming we actually last that long with you self-indulgent, arrogant mother****ers who believe that you aren't retarded. So **** it and **** all of you. I'll wait for the chip before I believe that any of our decisions are worth a damn. This is why I play video games and read comic books instead of watching the news. **** the news too btw.

[OccultHawk]

I am so in love with you, batty. I know everyone gushes on you all the time here but that was so ****ing right on. I'm not under any illusion you agree with any of my politics. That's not it. There's no arguing with anything you said. You could be talking to me or anyone else just as easy as Chula. Even yourself. And you know that. Beautiful.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I am so in love with you, batty. I know everyone gushes on you all the time here but that was so ****ing right on. I'm not under any illusion you agree with any of my politics. That's not it. There's no arguing with anything you said. You could be talking to me or anyone else just as easy as Chula. Even yourself. And you know that. Beautiful.

*shrug*

I clearly do the same arrogant **** and should have my **** knocked down as well. The idea that hairless apes a few thousand years from fighting to the death over bananas have any business ruling an entire planet is laughable and I'm flummoxed that anyone would believe anything different. But of course I do the same thing so obviously this is a pointless diatribe that will be forgotten by the next page after someone has said something about grassroots politics and how great it is to try our hardest by voting in the best candidate we possibly can and hoping for the best.

Even this post is arrogant and douchey but whatever I guess. Video games ahoy!!!

[OccultHawk]

Spot on! I'm about to get high.

[Trollheart]

Batty, I just wanted to say, sincerely, and without reservation, that your new avatar is totally ****ty.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

What do you propose then Einstein? And make it something that stands a chance of actually working - starting from where we are today and assuming where your idea would lead us 30 years from now.

Nice rant Bat. But you didn't answer the question. You gonna offer anything up or just sit back and bitch all day while you float in your pool of apathy?

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

You have people. 51 vote that everyone jumps off a cliff, 49 vote against it. Therefor, everyone jumps off a cliff. Makes perfect sense

Replace jumping off a cliff (ridiculous analogy) with something like "uphold Roe v Wade".

You guys make fun of me and call me a crack-pot, but it's motherfuckers like me, conspiracy theorist or otherwise, that affect positive change.

There have been motherfuckers like you around for centuries. Other than stuff like shooting Lincoln or blowing up the Federal building in Oklahoma care to give me some examples of positive change that's actually been implented and been working towards your beliefs of how goverment "should" work.