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OccultHawk 10-11-2017 01:32 PM

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there is nothing the oligarchy loathes more than democracy
The oligarchy loves democracy because they keep their power and have a claim to legitimacy that people almost universally buy into. But I ain't buying it.

Chula Vista 10-11-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1881864)
You could always shoot your kids in the head and spare them all this bull****. It's what a good father would do.

Too bad your father, along with Frowny's, and others didn't think of this 20-30 years ago. The world would certainly be a better place in the here and now.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1881875)
apathy aint the cure it's the disease

But is sure makes for a really pretty soap box, doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1881889)
I think your dislike towards democracy is basically exactly what the ruling class wants, not consciously, but by its design of obtaining more wealth and power for itself via corrupting democratic institutions

Yup. Bat, Frowny, Ori, and Hawk are exactly the demographic that the rich and powerful love exploiting. You guys' are feeding the machine 10X more than I am. Oh, the irony.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1881891)
We're still apes who want to be led by a strong beast who brooks no dissent.

Poetic, but pretty ****ing stupid, and adds zero to the issue we're currently dealing with. But I'm sure you felt really good typing it.

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1881894)
Yeah, people are dumb, overrated monkeys.

Shame on you!


Frownland 10-11-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881905)
Poetic, but pretty ****ing stupid, and adds zero to the issue we're currently dealing with. But I'm sure you felt really good typing it.

:rofl:

You, of all people, should NEVER use that term :laughing: :ifiusealaughingemojitheywontknowimmad:

The Batlord 10-11-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881902)
Studying cultures that are isolated from the influence of other cultures is the best way to determine if a trait is nurture or nature.

Indeed, but it doesn't disprove thousands of years of nurture that has reinforced the rule. I totally think that if we survive the next thousand years everything may very well work itself out, but this is not the next thousand years so I'm not holding my breath.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1881903)
The oligarchy loves democracy because they keep their power and have a claim to legitimacy that people almost universally buy into. But I ain't buying it.

Yeah totally. Most of democracy has been an exercise in the establishment hoodwinking the populace into believing they matter, at least more than they actually do.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881905)
Too bad your father, along with Frowny's, and others didn't think of this 20-30 years ago. The world would certainly be a better place in the here and now.

Too bad your parents were so traditional (nobody cares that your mother is a lesbian). Or else there might be one less working class Irish cretin.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1881906)
Egyptians are not exactly an isolated incident

Way to go back thousands of years to find a civilization of note that had a woman leader. Was there even a woman pharaoh besides Nefertiti? Regardless, at least 99% of human history ****s on your supposition. You know full well that this is true, unless you want to start repping MRA nonsense. And Nefertiti still never held a vote of any sort for the populace I'm assuming.

Humans are simply the smartest dumb animals.

Frownland 10-11-2017 02:20 PM

Cleopatra.

The Batlord 10-11-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881916)
Cleopatra.

Two female Egyptian pharoahs. Man, that disproves the rule. There's a reason those two are so famous. Cause they were a historical oddity. And one who presumably allowed for any kind of input from the populace?

Frownland 10-11-2017 02:25 PM

Don't ask questions if you can't handle the truth, sunshine.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1881911)
Was there even a woman pharaoh besides Nefertiti?


The Batlord 10-11-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881918)
Don't ask questions if you can't handle the truth, sunshine.

It's still an idiotic point to make within thousands of years of male tyrants, and a scattered few female tyrants. The sex of the tyrant is honestly not important except to point out the pattern of humanity's tyrant obsession.

I mean the rise of the executive branch shows this. The American public could give a modicum of a **** about a group of representatives when they can instead turn to what they hope will be an impressive strongman president who'll be willing to act unilaterally. When the best presidents in history are decided they are not decided by those who performed the office in the way that it was created, but those who did the most, in the same way that the "greatest" dictators are judged.

Frownland 10-11-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1881919)
It's still an idiotic point to make within thousands of years of male tyrants, and a scattered few female tyrants. The sex of the tyrant is honestly not important except to point out the pattern of humanity's tyrant obsession.

I mean the rise of the executive branch shows this. The American public could give a modicum of a **** about a group of representatives when they can instead turn to what they hope will be an impressive strongman president. When the best presidents in history are decided they are not decided by those who performed the office in the way that it was created, but those who did the most, in the same way that the "greatest" dictators are judged.

Take it up with elph homie.

I will say that most of those tyrants were products of a world where they understood the tyrant as an acceptable form of government. If we found that isolated cultures that deflect the idea of a predisposition towards tyrants, we can determine that it's something that's driven by culture, which effects how we would approach it if we wanted to move away from it.

Trollheart 10-11-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1881794)
eminem still trying to cling to his bit of relevancy i see. if you make a song about Donald Trump in 2018 chances are you're either a money loving sellout looking for an easy target or... well, no. you're a money loving sellout looking for an easy target.




that's nuts. if you have a decent health insurance package through work here then everything in the field can be practically free. i'm still covered under my mother's which means any dental work or optometry (including braces, glasses, etc.) is reimbursed in full, alongside the usual free hospital trips. only thing i've had to pay for is prescriptions, and even those don't usually = more than $10.

i think it's something that a lot of people take for granted here, and most spend more time complaining about the wait time than they actually using it to their benefit. but it's certainly something i'm grateful for.

What's even better is that, if you stop your medical insurance, even for a short while, you have to pay serious loading charges to get reinsured, which makes it prohibitively expensive for people like me, as it's all based on age. That means that whether I want to or not, whether I can afford it or not, I'm stuck paying this. Talk about fearmongering!
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881839)
Frowny, Ori, Bat, and Hark (who's invisible to me) will be by soon enough to use their "cynic sticks" and poke holes.

I'm slowly becomming immune.

Yeshua had it right. “Father, forgive them, for they do not know."

Comparing yourself to Jesus, Chula? That's a slippery slope...


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