The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Now that's what I call calculated editing to change the message.

Not really, you're just arguing on a broken premise so the premise is the only thing worth addressing.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Not really, you're just arguing on a broken premise so the premise is the only thing worth addressing.

Nah, you're just being your usual dick self and having fun by abusing your mod powers as you always do to try to make it look like I'm saying something I'm not. And you're the one who accuses me of not being able to debate?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Nah, you're just being your usual dick self and having fun by abusing your mod powers as you always do to try to make it look like I'm saying something I'm not. And you're the one who accuses me of not being able to debate?

When did I use my mod powers? And you definitely argued against a strawman of the overall discussion, aka arguing on a broken premise aka missing the point. Unless you're referring to a different post.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Frownland

When did I use my mod powers? And you definitely argued against a strawman of the overall discussion, aka arguing on a broken premise aka missing the point. Unless you're referring to a different post.

Um, yeah, ok, not mod powers this time. I forgot anyone can edit anyone else's post. My bad.

But I don't see how I'm strawmanning. The argument is that voting is pointless, you're a sheep if you vote, nothing changes etc, and I'm just pointing out that that is not the case everywhere. If, as I said, OH meant voting in America, then that's a different case and then I have no opinion to give on that. But until he confirms that's the case, I'll continue to explain why I vote and defend my position on that.

[Frownland]

He/I/Ori's obviously talking about the US dude. The fact that you reduced that to being against voting in general means that you were participating in a strawman argument.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Frownland

He/I/Ori's obviously talking about the US dude. The fact that you reduced that to being against voting in general means that you were participating in a strawman argument.

Well unlike Goof I can only talk about Ireland so I can only give my opinion based on what I know. He still said "voting is pointless" or some version of it, so without the qualifier that voting in his country is what he meant, my point stands. The world is not America and there are people from other countries here too.

[OccultHawk]

btw there's no excuse for not voting. whether you feel it matters or not, it requires minimal effort to mark an x on a piece of paper.

For the record, and hopefully for the last time, it's not my position that voting doesn't matter. My position is that voting is actually harmful. So that's my excuse. I'm not even going to make even a minimum effort to hurt myself and society as a whole.

For most not voting is simply political apathy, that's true. But voting, on the other hand, is the action of someone too intellectually lazy to understand how harmful it is.

[Frownland]

The conversation was pertaining to America.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

For the record, and hopefully for the last time, it's not my position that voting doesn't matter. My position is that voting is actually harmful. So that's my excuse. I'm not even going to make even a minimum effort to hurt myself and society as a whole.

For most not voting is simply political apathy, that's true. But voting, on the other hand, is the action of someone too intellectually lazy to understand how harmful it is.

FTR, are you confining your comments to America or does this include other countries?

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

He/I/Ori's obviously talking about the US dude. The fact that you reduced that to being against voting in general means that you were participating in a strawman argument.

Even if I'm being ignored, he's not strawmaning me. I'm dismissing democracy in general.