The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Trollheart]

Georgia student Scout Schultz shot dead by Atlanta police - BBC News

I don't know: I'm inclined for once to go with the Police here. If someone advances on you, shouting "Shoot me" and ignores repeated demands to drop the knife (even if it turns out later they don't have one and don't make that clear when shouted at) then what else are the cops to do? The mother says they should have not used lethal force, but in a situation like that surely as a cop you're in fear of your life, therefore the first reaction would be to shoot the suspect? Again, I don't know, but this seems a little clearer than the usual shooting an unarmed black kid...

[Cuthbert]

Was told no less than 13 times to drop the knife, then to not move, but decided to walk toward the police anyway.

When the police tell you to do something, just fucking do it.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Was told no less than 13 times to drop the knife, then to not move, but decided to walk toward the police anyway.

When the police tell you to do something, just fucking do it.

Kind of sounds like a case of Suicide by Cop, does it not?

[Zhanteimi]

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[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Mord

What cops say is not a polite suggestion.

This is correct. How many times have you heard this in a crisis situation?

"Excuse me, Sir, Madam or whatever you choose to identify as. We have this - well now, it's probably a silly notion but bear with us - idea that you're armed, and you know, that's not only not good for the community but also against, you know, the law. So if you wouldn't mind terribly could you lie down on the floor? We'd really appreciate it, and then you can get on with your day. Thank you in advance."

or this?

"DOWN ON THE GROUND! DO IT! NOOWWWWW! DOWN ON THE ****ING GROUND!!!!"

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Kind of sounds like a case of Suicide by Cop, does it not?

I dunno. Having seen the video though I honestly can't fault the officers.

Originally Posted by Mord

What cops say is not a polite suggestion.

Exactly.

[Zhanteimi]

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[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Georgia student Scout Schultz shot dead by Atlanta police - BBC News

I don't know: I'm inclined for once to go with the Police here. If someone advances on you, shouting "Shoot me" and ignores repeated demands to drop the knife (even if it turns out later they don't have one and don't make that clear when shouted at) then what else are the cops to do? The mother says they should have not used lethal force, but in a situation like that surely as a cop you're in fear of your life, therefore the first reaction would be to shoot the suspect? Again, I don't know, but this seems a little clearer than the usual shooting an unarmed black kid...

It just depends on the cop. Most will just shoot someone that they know is committing suicide by cop but there are other officers that have been trained to recognize it and will take them down without lethal force.

This guy had a gun and the officers took him in.

‘Suicide by cop’ attempt stopped in Utica

[Frownland]

You've got a belt full of non lethal ways to disarm a person. Use it.

[Cuthbert]

My post wasn't about the law, it was about avoiding the police mistreating you, the best way to ensure this doesn't happen is to just do what they tell you.

If they're being dicks stay calm and sort it out when they let you go.

Resist arrest/fail to comply if you want but don't be surprised if it doesn't end well for you.