The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[DwnWthVwls]

Nothing wrong with the point he's making. You just see everything through your pinhole.

"I think poverty to a large extent is also a state of mind," the retired neurosurgeon said during an interview with SiriusXM Radio released on Wednesday evening. "You take somebody that has the right mindset, you can take everything from them and put them on the street, and I guarantee in a little while they'll be right back up there. And you take somebody with the wrong mindset, you could give them everything in the world, they'll work their way right back down to the bottom."

[OccultHawk]

So if you're broke you can pay your rent with positivity?

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Nothing wrong with the point he's making. You just see everything through your pinhole.

Except he is wrong, there is so much more that goes into poverty. Of course he would say something that tone deaf and simplistic. Of course you would agree with him too. No surprise there.

[DwnWthVwls]

I love how you guys ignore the bolded.. so let's break it down for those of you who like to play dumb.

Also - meaning one of multiple variables
Has the right state of mind - if you're a member of society suffering from systematic poverty your entire life, you probably don't have this quality. The fact that there are people who make it out of the ghetto and make something of themselves in spite of all the shit they had to go through pretty much destroys any counterpoint you can make about it being a non-variable. The system is beatable except to people like you telling everyone they are doomed to fail because of a fucked up system that beat's the shit out of certain groups.


The ability some of you have to over simplify positions you do not agree with never fails to amaze me. Negative, defeatist attitudes for days. You can acknowledge problems without taking your position.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

So if you're broke you can pay your rent with positivity?

This is a complete misrepresentation of his point.

[OccultHawk]

If he said certain people would have a better chance of climbing out of poverty if they had a reason to hope and that's why we're committed to educational opportunities and job training programs that would show a sensitivity to what it means to be impoverished. But when he says bluntly, even in part it's a state of mind if you're poor, well, you know that you can't just think money into existence. One has to be very charitable with his words to find a reasonable interpretation of what he's saying. Poverty is literally a lack of money/wealth. There's no way around that reality when you're poor. Also, considering his history of saying stupid things and the administration he's now a part of there's very reason to give him any benefit of the doubt.

[OccultHawk]

This is a complete misrepresentation of his point.

Of course, I understand that. But his point is so irrelevant to my lack of funds that I feel justified redirecting it so it makes some ****ing sense.

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If he said certain people would have a better chance of climbing out of poverty if they had a reason to hope and that's why we're committed to educational opportunities and job training programs that would show a sensitivity to what it means to be impoverished. But when he says bluntly, even in part it's a state of mind if you're poor, well, you know that you can't just think money into existence. One has to be very charitable with his words to find a reasonable interpretation of what he's saying. Poverty is literally a lack of money/wealth. There's no way around that reality when you're poor. Also, considering his history of saying stupid things and the administration he's now a part of there's very reason to give him any benefit of the doubt.

He kind of addressed this.. Did you even read the article?

Carson said the government can provide help to those in need.
"I think the majority of people don't have that defeatist attitude, but they sometimes just don't see the way, and that's where government can come in and be very helpful," he added. "It can provide the ladder of opportunity, it can provide the mechanism that will demonstrate to them what can be done."

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Of course, I understand that. But his point is so irrelevant to my lack of funds that I feel justified redirecting it so it makes some ****ing sense.

You've already demonstrated your completely piss poor attitude and work ethic sooo yeah. You don't want to call his point about mindstates relevant because then you might actually have to improve yours and try in life.

[DwnWthVwls]

Honestly, just look at Chula. The guy has been beaten and dragged through the mud, and he's reaching out to us for help, trying to get his own business going for some extra income, and relying on the government for assistance. He's not just giving up.

[OccultHawk]

Yes. His story is deeply inspirational.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yes. His story is deeply inspirational.

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