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Frownland 05-22-2017 07:25 PM

The connection. It's in the cosmos man, illuminati ****.

You know it was an Arians Grande concert right?

Cuthbert 05-22-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1838809)
The connection. It's in the cosmos man, illuminati ****.

You know it was an Arians Grande concert right?

No it was an Ariana Grande concert.

OccultHawk 05-22-2017 09:03 PM

19 dead. At first I thought this might be a breakthrough hit.

Yeah, I wonder what's wrong with "people".

Maybe they believe in stupid religions and beliefs actually influence behavior. Maybe, even, their belief system is flawed to the core and needs to be considered problematic. Or maybe it's all good. I don't want to be considered a bigot. Yeah. All belief systems are the same. Sorry, it was like I thought I was on to something there. I should be more respectful to deadly cancerous belief systems. My bad.

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'Suicide bomber' strikes at Manchester Arena: Nineteen people are killed and 50 injured in terrorist attack as 'nail bomb near the exit' explodes, ripping into teens leaving packed Ariana Grande gig
Jesus. Who would do this? Does anybody know of any certain group of people prone to this kind of thing?

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Twitter accounts affiliated to Islamic State have used hashtags referring to the blast to post celebratory messages, with some users encouraging similar attacks elsewhere.
Muslims? Incredible.

Cuthbert 05-23-2017 05:53 AM

The death count is up to 22 and there will be an update at 1:15pm I think.

riseagainstrocks 05-23-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1838914)
19 dead. At first I thought this might be a breakthrough hit.

Yeah, I wonder what's wrong with "people".

Maybe they believe in stupid religions and beliefs actually influence behavior. Maybe, even, their belief system is flawed to the core and needs to be considered problematic. Or maybe it's all good. I don't want to be considered a bigot. Yeah. All belief systems are the same. Sorry, it was like I thought I was on to something there. I should be more respectful to deadly cancerous belief systems. My bad.

Jesus. Who would do this? Does anybody know of any certain group of people prone to this kind of thing?

Muslims? Incredible.

None of us think this was a good thing. None of us think the bastards who did this aren't evil. We all feel sad and angry and helpless and vengeful.

But Muslims didn't do this. A Muslim did. Wanna know how I know? I can do math. There are 1.2 billion of them. And if the core ideas and practice of Islam is as virulent and cancerous as you seem to think, such attacks would occur every hour on the hour.

So let's mourn the dead, hunt the perpetrators, and not put the blood guilt on 1.2 billion people who bury more of their own children thanks to ISIS and al Qaeda and Jabhat al-Nusra than we do.

OccultHawk 05-23-2017 07:52 AM

No. I'm genuinely shocked that something like this could be perpetrated by someone(s) who adheres to Islam.

smh So out of character. I'm sure it's just a one off...

Unless...and I'm just throwing this out there...unless maybe, just maybe, there's a connection between belief and behavior. No, it couldn't be. That would require bigotry. Discrimination. One would have to say one set of ideals is better than another and that certainly has to be off the table. Glad we got this one solved!

Janszoon 05-23-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1838980)
No. I'm genuinely shocked that something like this could be perpetrated by someone(s) who adheres to Islam.

smh So out of character. I'm sure it's just a one off...

Unless...and I'm just throwing this out there...unless maybe, just maybe, there's a connection between belief and behavior. No, it couldn't be. That would require bigotry. Discrimination. One would have to say one set of ideals is better than another and that certainly has to be off the table. Glad we got this one solved!

We should definitely jump to conclusions before we have all the facts. That's clearly the best way of operating in the world.

OccultHawk 05-23-2017 08:29 AM

Was I wrong?

riseagainstrocks 05-23-2017 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1838980)
No. I'm genuinely shocked that something like this could be perpetrated by someone(s) who adheres to Islam.

smh So out of character. I'm sure it's just a one off...

Unless...and I'm just throwing this out there...unless maybe, just maybe, there's a connection between belief and behavior. No, it couldn't be. That would require bigotry. Discrimination. One would have to say one set of ideals is better than another and that certainly has to be off the table. Glad we got this one solved!

You have repeatedly ignored the reasons given for why religiously inspired terrorism is currently more prevalent in the Middle East than elsewhere (You'd be singing a different tune in 1500's France). You've ignored the direct parallels of poverty and hopelessness that give rise to political terrorism and narco-terrorism in South America, Africa, and parts of East Europe/Asia.

Stop with the pathetic strawman that we're saying all ideas have equal merit. That's nonsense. The values that arose from the 1600's European Enlightenment are a clearly superior means of organizing society. Liberals ****ing love Western values. But you keep saying ALL Muslims are terrorists. That ISLAM teaches murder. I find Islam a repellent belief system. Much like all religion that teaches personal abjection. BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN SAYING IF YOU FOLLOW ISLAM, YOU ARE A MONSTER. ****... how is this hard to understand?

OccultHawk 05-23-2017 09:38 AM

Strawman

I never said all Muslims are terrorists.


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