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djchameleon 10-14-2016 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757632)
I'm not saying that rape doesn't happen or saying that all people accused of it aren't guilty. But way too many cases are being reported where the girl lies about it and ruins someone's life in the process.
Way too many cases? The amount of false accusations related to rape is something like 4% of all cases. So no, it isn't way too many.

Frownland 10-14-2016 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757632)
I'm not saying that rape doesn't happen or saying that all people accused of it aren't guilty. But way too many cases are being reported where the girl lies about it and ruins someone's life in the process.
It's pretty hard to find numbers on this tbh. How do you think it can be fixed?

Blank. 10-14-2016 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1757634)
Way too many cases? The amount of false accusations related to rape is something like 4% of all cases. So no, it isn't way too many.
4% is too many. Not to mention how ever many more where the person still went to jail despite wrongful accusation.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1757635)
It's pretty hard to find numbers on this tbh. How do you think it can be fixed?
The issue with numbers in this situation is they're going to focus on people who were found not guilty vs people who were found guilty. They can't take into account people who were convicted despite having done nothing wrong.

The Batlord 10-14-2016 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1757627)
Well... I think that's a stretch. There's still an issue with the percentage of accused rapists who are actually convicted. I think it stems from the inability victims have to discuss the matter, and the fact that it can take years before they're comfortable enough to discuss it. I don't have any idea how that could be fixed, but ideally it would be great if it became something that could be more easily reported so that the investigations could begin much earlier.
I imagine the bigger issue is that unless the woman reports the incident and gets a rape kit immediately afterward it can be almost impossible to prove that the accused and the accuser even had sex, let alone that it was nonconsensual.

Key 10-14-2016 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757632)
I'm not saying that rape doesn't happen or saying that all people accused of it aren't guilty. But way too many cases are being reported where the girl lies about it and ruins someone's life in the process.
That's just silly.

Frownland 10-14-2016 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757636)
4% is too many. Not to mention how ever many more where the person still went to jail despite wrongful accusation.



The issue with numbers in this situation is they're going to focus on people who were found not guilty vs people who were found guilty. They can't take into account people who were convicted despite having done nothing wrong.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1757635)
How do you think it can be fixed?
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Blank. 10-14-2016 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1757643)
.
Are you asking me how I think the problem can be fixed?

Key 10-14-2016 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757644)
Are you asking me how I think the problem can be fixed?
I'm unsure as to how you'd take the question any other way.

Frownland 10-14-2016 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1757645)
I'm unsure as to how you'd take the question any other way.
^

So yes.

Blank. 10-14-2016 10:17 AM
Eh. I am not going to pretend I'm brilliant and have all the answers. I don't. I have no idea how to fix the issue without limiting freedom. Which is something I'm way more against. Frankly, I'm just mad and bitching about something that pisses me off.


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