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kibbeh 06-10-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1707763)
Istanbul looks pretty dope.

istanbuls a really cool city imo

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1707765)
Maybe you could give him a place to stay nawmsayin?

NO. i say.... if you are gay, respect your surroundings. this man clearly can't do that.

The Batlord 06-10-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1707777)
istanbuls a really cool city imo



NO. i say.... if you are gay, respect your surroundings. this man clearly can't do that.

I don't know much about Iran or how dangerous it is to be openly gay there, and I guess a holy man should be willing to die for his beliefs rather than run from persecution, but come on, it's not like either of us believe in that muslim ****. He's a misguided dude with an unfortunate profession considering his orientation. Dude deserves a break.

And don't tell me he isn't cute.

kibbeh 06-10-2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1707784)
I don't know much about Iran or how dangerous it is to be openly gay there, and I guess a holy man should be willing to die for his beliefs rather than run from persecution, but come on, it's not like either of us believe in that muslim ****. He's a misguided dude with an unfortunate profession considering his orientation. Dude deserves a break.

And don't tell me he isn't cute.

i do feel bad for him because he is clearly very lost if he believes in islam still
i just believe if you're gay and coming out is going to put your life in danger then duh... don't come out. its common sense. i don't know if he came out publicly or just didn't care and was openly gay idk but still. my point is that if coming out will get you killed DON'T ****IN COME OUT

and he was marrying off gay couples in iran???? WTF? thats so illegal there like honestly... he had it coming.

The Batlord 06-10-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1707788)
i do feel bad for him because he is clearly very lost if he believes in islam still
i just believe if you're gay and coming out is going to put your life in danger then duh... don't come out. its common sense. i don't know if he came out publicly or just didn't care and was openly gay idk but still. my point is that if coming out will get you killed DON'T ****IN COME OUT

and he was marrying off gay couples in iran???? WTF? thats so illegal there like honestly... he had it coming.

Dude's got some balls at least. Whether or not he has common sense or a brain in his head, you gotta give him some respect for not givin' a ****. I also like what it says about Iran that an Imam is willing to come out when that **** is still seriously rare in America.

kibbeh 06-10-2016 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1707792)
Dude's got some balls at least. Whether or not he has common sense or a brain in his head, you gotta give him some respect for not givin' a ****. I also like what it says about Iran that an Imam is willing to come out when that **** is still seriously rare in America.

okay but for him to preach about religion and pretend to be religious and then go clubbing and meeting dudes in turkey is not hypocritical??

honestly nothing is harder than growing up in a strict conservative environment and growing up to realize all those ideas are complete bull**** and then trying to move on and get on with your life. like i literally spent so many hours of my life praying, fasting, reading quran, learning, reading about the religion, the sahaba, the hadith, everything.... and to do that and then come to the conclusion that its all bull****... it just ****in sucks.

The Batlord 06-10-2016 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1707904)
okay but for him to preach about religion and pretend to be religious and then go clubbing and meeting dudes in turkey is not hypocritical??

Nothing says he's not a hypocritical *******. He's a human being after all, but Martin Luther King Jr. was a preacher who ****ed around on his wife. Doesn't change the things he did for his people. Maybe this dude was a hypocrite, but that doesn't necessarily take away from the good that he might be doing. Of course he might just have been a scumbag who just happened to be an Imam. **** is what it is;

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honestly nothing is harder then growing up in a strict conservative environment and growing up to realize all those ideas are complete bull**** and then trying to move on and get on with your life. like i literally spent so many hours of my life praying, fasting, reading quran, learning, reading about the religion, the sahaba, the hadith, everything.... and to do that and then come to the conclusion that its all bull****... it just ****in sucks.
So shouldn't you have a little more understanding for someone who obviously puts more space in his life for something that might not be in his best interest? Especially when that thing is so powerful in your culture?

kibbeh 06-10-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1707910)
Nothing says he's not a hypocritical *******. He's a human being after all, but Martin Luther King Jr. was a preacher who ****ed around on his wife. Doesn't change the things he did for his people. Maybe this dude was a hypocrite, but that doesn't necessarily take away from the good that he might be doing. Of course he might just have been a scumbag who just happened to be an Imam. **** is what it is;



So shouldn't you have a little more understanding for someone who obviously puts more space in his life for something that might not be in his best interest? Especially when that thing is so powerful in your culture?

i'm not saying i don't understand. i do but... he should do more than just seek refuge in turkey. now that he is in a safer place he should speak up about the hell that gay 'muslims' go through. i was wishing he would denounce the religion as a whole. not just be like.... yes i married off gay muslim couples. i mean COME ON. i understand the whole... islam can be interpreted in many different ways. and he is definitely not the first muslim to argue that islam isn't against homosexuality but i just kind of wish he had done more since he is speaking publicly and hundreds of thousands of people are listening.

i don't hate him, he does seem like a nice really sad dude. i actually feel really bad for him. being gay as **** and still being an imam thinkin hes gonna go to heaven. i just had higher expectations i guess.

innerspaceboy 06-10-2016 04:22 PM

The June 8th broadcast of VICE on HBO - 'State of Surveillance' with Edward Snowden and Shane Smith. 25 minutes of "oh my god... we're really f*cked."


kibbeh 06-10-2016 04:24 PM

i love edward snowden so much. i wish he would **** me while he tells me how creepy the government is.

innerspaceboy 06-10-2016 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1707938)
i love edward snowden so much. i wish he would **** me while he tells me how creepy the government is.

I confess - as a straight dude... I totally think he's hot. And definitely an INTJ. My kinda guy.


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