That annoys me.

I noticed this bit:

In case we are forgetting, here's a reminder of how Presidents used to conduct themselves:-

I don't think that comforting victims of tragedies is a necessary function for the president tbh. It just feels empty.

True. But to me, Trump is uniquely repulsive. I’d rather have the Westboro people show up. No exaggeration. He’s that sickening.

Says the man with no soul or empathy for anyone but himself.

Do you feel better now that you've gotten that off of your chest? Since it's not really constructive, meaningful, or even funny, I imagine that you posted it for personal reasons.

lol

You're describing about 95% of your replies to my posts. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Alright then, does copping my style make you feel better or give you gratification?

Does copping Joe Baiza’s style make you feel better or give you gratification?

Recs? I unintentionally rip people off all the time, what's weird is when I do it without hearing them beforehand.

Makes me want a bleach scrub-down.

Then why do you do it* so often?


*Just to be clear, by "it" I'm referring to making meaningless, nonconstructive, and boring posts which you have said to be a trademark of mine. "It" does not refer to other trademark elements of my personality such as sexiness, pretentiousness, sense of humour, or intelligence.

Not going to debate the others, but I've got you stone cold on sexiness.

https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...38&oe=5B4AEAEB

Whatever you need to tell yourself man.

So are you going to answer my question?

Sort of like having your murderer show up at your funeral, looking falsely apologetic and sympathetic.

You’ve heard him before.

Universal Congress Of

The name must have just missed you

:love:

^ Not the most important part of their job, of course, but it's still expected of a head of state. Any time there's a tragedy that impacts a whole nation, the head of state steps up to speak for the people, expressing sorrow or sympathy. A frivolous analogy might be the way the boss of a workplace makes a speech at a retirement party.

It's also a chance for heads of state to learn a bit of humility by meeting, honouring and talking, both to and about specific ordinary citizens, regarding them as more than just voters to be wooed. It's a real showcase of a President's charisma and empathy as well, and they get it wrong at their peril, as happened when the Queen misjudged the public mood after Lady Di was killed. She had to endure some of the worst headlines of her entire reign. The only one I still remember said, "Show us you care, ma'am" which is pretty ludicrous at one level, but that's how many people felt at the time: cheated because they didn't have a mourning figurehead on tv.

^ At last the rivalry between Chula and Frownland is getting down to fundimentals: it's always been about who has the biggest penis. ;)

And, yes, back on topic, I agree with TH and OH: Trump is just creepy, with his deadpan, off-to-the-side, autocue pronouncements.

I understand that it's expected, I just don't find it necessary or beneficial. The president can act nice and feel sorry for those involved in an incident, but neighbours, family, friends, and the media have that very much covered.

Lol I see that as an unnecessary injection of oneself into someone else's business. Then again, I just work with a lot of people like that so maybe the analogy comes off differently for you.

That's still not something that I find necessary in a leader, but even if I did, wouldn't a president consoling victims of a tragedy because they feel compelled to very much be treating those victims like voters?

Yes, I remember when that really came to a head in the member picture gallery and a load of posts were deleted.

^ I can't really refute a single point you make there.
I suppose it's all about what you expect from your head of state, and your expectations are just as valid as the Brits who ( for whatever motives) wanted to see the Queen choking up on tv and rending her garments in her grief. Personally, I like leaders to show some decorous, discreet acknowledgement of a disaster and in that earlier video clip I thought Obama came off very well. He appeared genuinely upset, which was borne out by the subsequent quote, that it was "the single worst day of his presidency."

^ :laughing:... and also fervently hoping that it is indeed a joke.. :yikes:

Yes, I'm stupid (no, don't argue - oh, you weren't. I ... see.... ) but it took me a moment to understand this headline:

Ford's president of North America is out

I was like, Ford? He was decades ago, man! What the hell are they talking about? :laughing: Feel free to laugh at me; I did.

I doubt it: we all know Frown's the biggest prick here! :laughing: :rofl:

OH, please share your thoughts on arming teachers to prevent mass shootings.

It would cause there to be far more mass shootings. Kids would knock teachers out and take their guns. Teachers would freak out and shoot the air conditioner guy. Teachers would have nervous breakdowns and instead of throwing a laptop against the wall somebody’s brains would be on the wall. Teachers don’t want to take ****ing gun safety courses go to shooting ranges and all that. And when the kids start getting high at 4:20 frustrated teachers would be offing themselves with their new toys.

I can’t express how stupid that idea is. Most teachers take twenty minutes to get the DVD player to work and people are seriously talking about arming them with real guns? lol

Even though there’s a shooting at some school like every three days or something most schools go decades without a single shooting. Most schools have never had a shooting. Shootings are rare even in terrible neighborhood schools.

Bringing in ****loads of more guns and putting them in possession of teachers many of whom are on Xanax Prozac and take pain pills and sleeping pills

You gotta be out of your mind to support that ****

People must not have any clue how ****ed up the typical teacher is

The only reason to support it would be for the incredible death footage it would add to the internet to kick through on a boring day

Lack of empathy 101.

You do, however, understand why most find it comforting and reassuring?

Especially those directly affected?

Oh great, another post sloppily hammered onto a keyboard through a tear-blurred lens.

Obviously, Chula. I'm not as stupid as you assume I must be for having the gall to disagree with you. Just because it can be beneficial to some doesn't mean that it's a necessary function of the president.

But it is and has been for a long time. Goes with the job title.

Presidential Tragedy Reactions and the 'Comforter-in-Chief' | Time

1. The tragedy in question doesn't even begin to make a blip on the scale of the others mentioned in the article. Not to discredit the article, it's just pretty amazing how the country has evolved.
2. It is certainly a traditional function of a president. That doesn't mean that it's a necessary function of the president. We live in evolving times, Chula. In a world where corporations are endlessly thrusting empty gestures into the victims of tragedies, the president is just another mushroom print on the cheek. If the president wants these kids and teachers to feel better, then he better take some action and try to fix the situation. Shaking their hand and saying "well I feel real bad Johnny" is a fucking insult when you don't mean it enough to try to do something about it.

In times of great national tragedy our elected leaders should demonstrate solidarity with the fallen by publicly committing suicide.

Didn't Obama actually relax the gun laws?

My mans Obamar, if it weren't for guns I wouldn't get to see world star videos of rappers beating down and ripping AK47s from pussy ass kids' hands.

Because people are stupid enough to think that politicians mean what they say?

Because people who've just had their hearts and souls ripped out will take any shoulder offered to cry on. And the POTUS is a big ****ing shoulder.

Sincerity is not the point.

Honestly I've never heard from anyone being "comforted" by a president, but I kind of doubt they really care. Except for the stupid people.

That's not true. Cutting someone's arm off in the name of Jesus is so much better than cutting someone's arm off in the name of Allah.

^ Actually, they turn up all the time on tv, hugging the President and such, or at a minimum thanking the Pres for his words. They're not necessarily stupid, tbh. I think it's connected to how different people have different emotional attitudes to leaders, patriotism, grief etc.

Of course, some politicos have more genuine empathy than others, so even in moments of grief, I'd recommend that people be careful about who they hug:-

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Surely by now we've taught God all he needs to know?
I actually agree with Frown. The point about the president comforting people is that the tragedy can usually be traced back to being his fault. A war, a policy, a lack of policy, a shut-down of an industry ... when it's your fault, directly or indirectly, saying sorry seems a total dick move and surely can't comfort anyone.

Sorry we didn't fix those levees and your family drowned.
Sorry we had to send your dad to his death in a pointless war.
Sorry your sister died at the hands of a rapist our system paroled or didn't jail for long enough
Sorry
Sorry
Sorry
We're so sorry.
****. That. ****.

#VoteHawk2020
He committed suicide?

I guess it depends on the President. Someone like Reagan or Obama tended to come off as genuine while someone like Clinton maybe you wondered if he was pandering for votes. I don't know who was sincere or not with the possible exception of Trump who's an absolute nitwit who doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. Anyway, I like to think that most of the Presidents (even Clinton) meant well when they offered sympathies.

I'm not saying they didn't (at least, some of them) but when you're a part of the problem then apologising and sympathising with the victims/families seems very disingenuous to me. Look at it this way: you kill someone because you're drunk while driving. You go to the funeral, apologise to the family. You're genuinely contrite and sincere. Do you think your words comfort them, or are they instead thinking "if it wasn't for you my loved one would still be alive?"

^Yep, that's the impression I get as well.

Trump's total empathy fail:-
#5. I hear you
#6. Let's have more guns in schools