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OccultHawk 02-16-2018 10:01 PM

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I'd concede your point in regards to George W. Bush's Administration, minus the death penalty stuff. You and I were never in a position like the one Obama or Clinton was in where they had to ask themselves whether it was best to remove support and potentially let an organization like ISIL take hold.
If that’s the case then I want to make a plea to the UN to send troops into Florida. Use drones and smart missiles. It’s a complete ****show here. We’re decimating the environment. Shorelines and swamplands have been destroyed. We had the worst oil spill in human history. Wildlife is going extinct. We’ve had horrifying mass shootings and huge swaths of land are unlivable due to corruption and crime. We’re even actively participating in our certain demise by ignoring all signs of global warming even as we’re literally going under water. Clearly we are unfit to govern ourselves.

OccultHawk 02-16-2018 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1927084)
What pathetic response? He's building an iron clad case brick by brick. Indicting
the 13 Russians this morning was a massive big balls move.

Huge juicy testicles. 13 unknown Russians down!!! VICTORY!!!

Chula Vista 02-17-2018 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927087)
Huge juicy testicles. 13 unknown Russians down!!! VICTORY!!!

Do you really not understand how these things work?

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1927100)
Do you really not understand how these things work?



I understand how it worked for a bunch of other pieces of ****

Maajo 02-17-2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927083)
They answer to the president but that doesn’t mean the president is above the law. If the FBI went rogue other law enforcement would be duty bound to issue arrests where the law is broken. They’re beholden to abuse of powers laws like all law enforcement agencies. The judicial branch handles the cases after the arrests. In order for the system to work certain good faith common sense measures have to be honored. Ridiculous ideas like the president can impede any investigation he doesn’t like or can pardon himself and so on cannot be accepted as normal policy. Clearly, Trump has gone rogue and has openly and flagrantly broken the law. So far, he’s getting a pass. If Americans accept this state of affairs or are placated by Mueller’s pathetic response then we go deeper and deeper into this dictatorship.

First off - the first half of what you said is spot on, and I don't disagree with you. He isn't above the law, and that's why him and all of his administration and ties to Russia are being investigated. While what you say about there needing to be good faith/common sense measures is true, that also includes due dilligence and getting the charges right. Like I said, I think there's some deniability that Trump has in facing criminal charges for firing Comey, and Mueller is aware of that.

Maajo 02-17-2018 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927086)
If that’s the case then I want to make a plea to the UN to send troops into Florida. Use drones and smart missiles. It’s a complete ****show here. We’re decimating the environment. Shorelines and swamplands have been destroyed. We had the worst oil spill in human history. Wildlife is going extinct. We’ve had horrifying mass shootings and huge swaths of land are unlivable due to corruption and crime. We’re even actively participating in our certain demise by ignoring all signs of global warming even as we’re literally going under water. Clearly we are unfit to govern ourselves.

The difference between the two things is that there isn't a large military group attempting to seize Florida.

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1927103)
First off - the first half of what you said is spot on, and I don't disagree with you. He isn't above the law, and that's why him and all of his administration and ties to Russia are being investigated. While what you say about there needing to be good faith/common sense measures is true, that also includes due dilligence and getting the charges right. Like I said, I think there's some deniability that Trump has in facing criminal charges for firing Comey, and Mueller is aware of that.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...es/1053095001/

Do you want this Nazi **** to stop or not? I don’t give a **** about Russia meddling. We got an Idi Amin wannabe mother****er in the White House. We got a crime on the table. Take ****ing action.

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1927105)
The difference between the two things is that there isn't a large military group attempting to seize Florida.

I know. I’m requesting that the UN send one.

Maajo 02-17-2018 01:37 AM

What's changed since all of that? Violence is the last resort and not the solution to the problem.

Maajo 02-17-2018 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927108)
I know. I’m requesting that the UN send one.

Then you should have no problem with fascism.

Maajo 02-17-2018 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927107)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...es/1053095001/

Do you want this Nazi **** to stop or not? I don’t give a **** about Russia meddling. We got an Idi Amin wannabe mother****er in the White House. We got a crime on the table. Take ****ing action.

Yeah, who doesn't want it to stop other than the dumbasses who voted for him? Where you're wrong is in advocating for unilateral action without due process, and also for not minding whether the Russians are ****ing with our elections.

Lisnaholic 02-17-2018 06:26 AM

"Democracies can fall even while holding elections" is the worrying take-away from this Yale lecturer's analysis of recent history:-



Other more-or-less quotes that impressed me:-

Guy:- Trump is the first American politician to say that he may not accept the election result. He is the first American politician to encourage acts of violence against his political opponents.
Interviewer:- But isn't democracy in the US unassailable?
Guy:- It's important not to be complaiscent. Eroding trust in the media makes it difficult to determine what's true, but if you become cynical about everything, you also become powerless about everything.

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 07:45 AM

Democracy is a failure.

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 11:15 AM

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we don't live in a democracy
Good

The Batlord 02-17-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927141)
Democracy is a failure.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1927168)
we don't live in a democracy

the gal who got the most votes lost anyway

end of this year the blue wave will probably neuter the snowflake in chief then maybe a real progressive runs in 2020 it's not all bad

#2020

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/80/d3/89/8...11c1ebf70e.jpg

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1927183)
good for capitalists

not so good for anything else

The “blue wave” is not solidarity, son.

Chula Vista 02-17-2018 02:22 PM

General McMaster, Trump's appointee for National Security Advisor, comes out today on TV and states that Russia Hacked the 2016 election, and that the evidence is incontrovertible.

Trump's "Witch Hunt" excuse.... *poof*

All experts agree that Mueller's indictment of the 13 Russian individuals and 3 Russian companies won't lead to any Russian arrests or extraditions. They also agree that he did it to solely ratchet up the pressure on those close to Trump who are hiding **** that could put them in jail.

Again, more plea deals are coming folks.

Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Gates, Kushner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Donald

The Batlord 02-17-2018 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1927222)
General McMaster, Trump's appointee for National Security Advisor, comes out today on TV and states that Russia Hacked the 2016 election, and that the evidence is incontrovertible.

Trump's "Witch Hunt" excuse.... *poof*

All experts agree that Mueller's indictment of the 13 Russian individuals and 3 Russian companies won't lead to any Russian arrests or extraditions. They also agree that he did it to solely ratchet up the pressure on those close to Trump who are hiding **** that could put them in jail.

Again, more plea deals are coming folks.

Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Gates, Kushner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Donald

I hope you're right, dude, but I'll believe it when Trump actually gets impeached.

Chula Vista 02-17-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1927224)
I hope you're right, dude, but I'll believe it when Trump actually gets impeached.

For PR reasons he'll resign first like Nixon did. And Melania will divorce him the next day.

Coming soon, Trump: The West Wing

YOU'RE FIRED!

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1927222)
General McMaster, Trump's appointee for National Security Advisor, comes out today on TV and states that Russia Hacked the 2016 election, and that the evidence is incontrovertible.

Trump's "Witch Hunt" excuse.... *poof*

All experts agree that Mueller's indictment of the 13 Russian individuals and 3 Russian companies won't lead to any Russian arrests or extraditions. They also agree that he did it to solely ratchet up the pressure on those close to Trump who are hiding **** that could put them in jail.

Again, more plea deals are coming folks.

Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Gates, Kushner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Donald

How long do you think it’ll take?

The Batlord 02-17-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1927232)
For PR reasons he'll resign first like Nixon did. And Melania will divorce him the next day.

Coming soon, Trump: The West Wing

YOU'RE FIRED!

The day she divorces him is the day I swipe right and put a hole in my condom.

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1927232)
For PR reasons he'll resign first like Nixon did. And Melania will divorce him the next day.

Coming soon, Trump: The West Wing

YOU'RE FIRED!

lol directed by Oliver Stone

Resignation won’t save him from prosecution unless Pence or whoever pulls a Ford.

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1927234)
The day she divorces him is the day I swipe right and put a hole in my condom.

I think you should aim for one of the Palin klan. Isn’t there a retard in that bunch? Score!

Chula Vista 02-17-2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1927234)
The day she divorces him is the day I swipe right and put a hole in my condom.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927237)
I think you should aim for one of the Palin klan. Isn’t there a retard in that bunch? Score!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

:tramp:

The Batlord 02-17-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1927237)
I think you should aim for one of the Palin klan. Isn’t there a retard in that bunch? Score!

If I'm aiming for anyone it's McCain's daughter. Jesus Christ she's fine. That body is unbelievable.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kwqQykLozv...han-Mccain.jpg

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 07:55 PM

She really is dynamite.

Those are real goodies, too.

Bitch is old school fine.

The Batlord 02-17-2018 08:01 PM

Her body is basically 100% everything I want in a woman. She's the "Holy ****" ultra rare collectible of politics. I remember seeing her in interviews while McCain was running for president and just watching in awe of just how gorgeous she was. Would have voted for him just so she could be on television more if he wasn't such a disgusting warmonger. Good a reason as any these days. Seriously, how do you get tortured by the Vietnamese and then come out trying to get us to go to WW3 with Russia like it ain't ****. *******.

Psy-Fi 02-17-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1927267)
If I'm aiming for anyone it's McCain's daughter. Jesus Christ she's fine. That body is unbelievable.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kwqQykLozv...han-Mccain.jpg

The added bonus is that her mom owns Hensley & Co., which is one of the largest Anheuser-Busch beer distributors in the United States.

:beer:

Lisnaholic 02-17-2018 09:21 PM

With all these Russian website factories being exposed, I kind of regret click "like" on this page now:

https://media.reason.com/mc/jsullum/...g?h=1030&w=750

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 09:30 PM

Putin should stay in office forever!

Did I just interfere in Russia’s democracy?

OccultHawk 02-17-2018 11:28 PM

I’m gonna hate **** America by going full maga 2020

I’m voting all republican in the midterms

**** this **** hole

Chula Vista 02-17-2018 11:29 PM

Hey Bat, the door's unlocked.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...41_306x423.jpg

The Batlord 02-18-2018 04:04 AM

She lost weight?! **** that ****!

Chula Vista 02-19-2018 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1927313)
She lost weight?! **** that ****!

Pretty sure she's younger in that pic. This is pre-BAA.

Bat Approved Ass

Lucem Ferre 02-19-2018 02:23 AM

Damn, she's gorgeous, but I bet she's also more drama than she's worth.

The Batlord 02-19-2018 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1927543)
Pretty sure she's younger in that pic. This is pre-BAA.

Bat Approved Ass

Phew.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1927548)
Damn, she's gorgeous, but I bet she's also more drama than she's worth.

And I'll bet having dinner with her father would be torture.

OccultHawk 02-19-2018 09:06 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.e9a7ee0399c7

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Teachers say Florida suspect’s problems started in middle school, and the system tried to help him

In one school year, when Cruz was in middle school, he racked up numerous infractions — including for a fight during the second week of school and continuing with a pattern of unruly behavior, insults and profanity, according to disciplinary records obtained by WPLG-Local 10, an ABC television affiliate in Miami that shared the records with The Washington Post.


Teachers said that by eighth grade he was lashing out physically — randomly bumping other students in the hallways, appearing to want to pick confrontations and fights, and at times breaking into profanity-laced tirades without any apparent trigger.

For years, he was making school miserable for other kids and teachers. This will not be reported like this but for the other students and teachers having to share space with kids like that everyday damages your mental health. The focus is going to be on shootings but there’s incredible widespread damage being done just by the insistence on keeping these kids in school. It’s incredibly unfair to the other students. As for the shooter, why warp out 18 years of his life and then finally expell him? He’s been begging for expulsion for years. Let him go early for everyone’s sake. This is why our obsession with compulsory schooling is so insane. People, even kids, who hate it, shouldn’t be forced into it.

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Teachers worked “very, very, very hard” to get Cruz to a school center that would help him address his issues, said the sixth-grade teacher, who noted that Cruz’s now-deceased mother also understood his problems and wanted to get him help. But that process took years, the teacher said, and required loads of paperwork to back up Cruz’s needs.
Where I’m at, in this part of Florida, those schools don’t exist. They just progressively become more like prison. Teachers all over worked hard to dump him somewhere else but even the jail schools didn’t want him so they too worked hard to find the “right” placement.

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Broward County schools once recorded more in-school arrests than any other Florida school system. But that harsh approach fell out of favor amid concerns that it was funneling too many young people — and particularly black and Hispanic students — into the juvenile justice system. Cruz is listed on official documents as being white.
The argument is the white kid isn’t funneled in for the same offences. Here’s reality: Black kid disrupts class thirty times and gets suspended. White kid disrupts class three times and gets a warning. Black people go ape**** bananas asking why the white kid didn’t get suspended. Don’t believe it? Go teach.

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In recent years, Broward schools became a leader in the national move toward a different kind of discipline — one that would not just punish students, but also would help them address the root causes of their misbehavior. Such policies aim to combat what is known as the “school-to-prison pipeline,” giving teenagers a chance to stick with their education rather than get derailed, often permanently, by criminal charges.

Beginning in 2013, Broward stopped referring students to police for about a dozen infractions ranging from alcohol and drug use to bullying, harassment and assault. Instead, students who get in trouble for those infractions are offered an alternative program that emphasizes counseling, conflict resolution skills and referral to community social service agencies.

Jonathon Fishman, spokesman for the Broward Sheriff’s Office, said last week that he had no record of deputies arresting Cruz before Wednesday.

So they want to keep everything in house but guess what? They can’t deal with it. All they can do is sweep it under the rug. It said above he got into fights all the time but no assault charges. Teachers and students were terrified of him but they won’t kick him out or call the police or press charges when there’s a crime. The reason is they want to keep suspensions as low as possible. Not curb the behavior but just change the numbers.

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The Obama administration held up Broward’s transformed discipline system as a national model, inviting Runcie to speak about the district’s approach in 2015.
Congratulations Boward School District. Worked out great!

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In January 2017, when Cruz was disciplined for an alleged assault, that triggered a call for a threat assessment, a formal process by which the school determines whether a student is dangerous and how that student should be supervised and supported.

Three weeks after the call for the threat assessment, Cruz transferred to an alternative high school. It’s not clear whether the assessment was conducted, what its findings were or how those findings translated into any intervention.

Well, thank God they didn’t involve the police. The school to graveyard pipeline is so much better than the school to prison pipeline for kids who should be in prison or at least nowhere near a school.

OccultHawk 02-19-2018 09:13 AM

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/1....html?referer=

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How Dental Inequality Hurts Americans
Lack of dental care through Medicaid not only harms people’s health, but has negative economic implications as well.

Thought you might like this one, bats

OccultHawk 02-19-2018 11:33 PM

https://apnews.com/b4d90b8a47e6459c8f68a6ff9c64cfa7

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17 killed in garbage dump collapse in Mozambique
Yuck

OccultHawk 02-20-2018 10:55 AM

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...APPLENEWS00001

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Lopez, who hid in one of the school’s closets to escape the shooting Wednesday, said Cruz would act violently toward his ex-girlfriend, as well as Lopez and her friends.

“He talked about killing our parents, our friends, boyfriends and girlfriends,” Lopez said. “He would hit [his ex-girlfriend], he would threaten her, he would threaten her family and her friends, for talking to other guys.”

Lopez said she reported Cruz to school officials “multiple” times between 2016 and 2017 after he began following her and her friends after school.
Instead of dealing with it they swept it under the rug. No Child Left Behind.


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