It’s a fad.

Simultaneous increase in selective awareness and isolation.

No it's not? You need a gun to shoot somebody. Obviously you require someone willing to kill to fire the gun, but you are always going to have people in a country of millions who want to kill others so having firearms available is insane imo.

What does my head in with it all is not really the fact that the gun laws won't change, its how vehemently a lot of people oppose it, and seem genuinely offended by it.

I’ll take 20 killed by a shooter over one face permanently mangled in one of your crazy acid attacks. Assault rifles leave carnage, no doubt, but melting someone’s face with sulphuric acid is some serious next level ****.

For a large portion of gun owners it's the fear of a slippery slope domino effect. They feel like even giving an inch to increased gun control will ultimately lead to the gubment taking away their guns. And they are extremely zealous about that fear.

And then you have folks like the NRA, Ted Nugent, Alex Jones, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and most of the talking heads over on Fox, stoking those fears on a daily basis.

(can't wait to hear Jone's latest False Flag theory...... )

And let's not forget that one of the biggest lobbies on Capital Hill is the NRA, which basically represents all of the major gun and ammunition manufacturers.

Go to Google Images and search for "Gunshot wounds head".

No.

Yes the **** it is. Yeah, people that want to kill shouldn't have such easy access to killing machines, but most of these shootings seem to come from emotionally and mentally ill people.

Like, you totally over simplify **** by making it just a gun issue, and probably assume I'm pro guns just because I don't.

I read it was the 18th US school shooting of this year, and we're in mid February ffs! Of course, this one isn't going to change anything either. Why would it. USA loves guns more than children.

It's true what Lucem says; that it's not just a gun issue, but come on...

We have mentally ill people in the UK.

US gun murder rate is 90 times that of the UK.
We don't have 13k gun murders per year.

It's a gun issue.

I don't even know where these people even get these guns to be honest. Like, if there is such strong gun violence in areas like Chicago that nobody ever talks about because I guess black people dying isn't an issue, and these people definitely are not buying guns legally, would gun laws truly prevent mentally ill white people from obtaining them? I mean, yeah, making it harder is sure to prevent so many of these events, but contrary to popular belief these things are typically planned. Now if a young Chicago kid can get access to automatic rifles illegally, who's stopping a determined James Holmes from doing the same thing? Or what happens when they just turn to bombs? Or they just start stabbing fools? Yeah, less death, but the problem still isn't solved.

...acid attacks are like gunshots...on acid

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I'm just saying that if a person in Denmark decides he needs a gun to go shoot some people, it's going to be difficult. Last shooting I heard of in Denmark that didn't involve gangsters was one hunter shooting another by accident.

Mass availability of guns means easy mass killing. It's not even going to be enough to screen people for mental illness. You need to remove guns from your society to the level of nations without gun stores.

Of course, this won't happen 'till Hell freezes over.

For that matter, it will be better for black communities as well if guns are outlawed. It's prevention of deadly and mass violence.

Maybe, I don't know though. Worth a try, but definitely not the only thing that needs to be talked about. I think the issue is deeper. Cause you also have to remember that a mental evaluation seems to be free in the UK while out here you have to pay for the session and then worry about them falsely diagnosing you with something so they can prescribe you with something that you also have to pay for and probably shouldn't be taking because they jumped at the first chance to prescribe it.

I totally agree. Frequent school/public/etc. shootings are an issue caused by more than one broken system.

Take the studen in this recent Florida shooting, for example. He'd been dismissed from school for misbehaving, but I wonder if any amount of care was given to him before the final straw. He might have shown all sorts of signs of being in need of care.

I was giving the numbers for Columbine.

That high school down in Broward in Florida that got shot up, was my ex girlfriends high school. I checked up on her about it, she has siblings about that age. No harm though, apparently that side of her family relocated to Jacksonville a while back. But still, I feel bad for her. I'm sure that's ****ing with her head a little bit.

I'd have taken my chances in the school.

I'm old enough to remember when a lot of high schools in the U.S. had gun clubs for the students. Some even had shooting ranges on school grounds. My high school didn't have a shooting range but we had a gun club where you could shoot .22 caliber pistols & rifles and/or learn to shoot skeet at a local shooting range.

School shootings by students were very rare and I can't recall ever hearing of one back then that involved a mass shooting with multiple deaths of other students.

It’s a new form of expression.

It would be pretty hard to kill that many people with a knife.

I’m not sure if lucem is pro or anti gun control but I think what he’s saying is we’re witnessing a manifestation of hate and human hatred is ultimately the most serious threat.

I understand what he's saying. I'm just saying that access to guns is what turns the thoughts into reality for those people.

I'm with Jansz.

She was probably just looking for any way to get his ass out of the house.

I know this comment is often either used facetiously or from the far - uh whatever- but seriously - can we start by disarming the world’s governments?

But the problem isn't just gun violence, is my point.

Guns. Echo chambers. Intellectual contagion. Idiocy. Lack of attempt to change because change is scary. Obama. The weather.

In my case I’m not making a libertarian argument for gun ownership. I’m making an earnest plea for complete disarmament. All mankind, all weapons. I’m taking the strongest anti-gun stance possible.

FTR, I haven’t heard anyone anywhere take this stance- scoff or whatever but I’m NOT reporting from an echo chamber.

dude

I think what you’re saying positively has to be heard

I’m not trying to speak for you but I think at least part of what you’re saying is the problem is the hate and anger and the hate and anger exists for real reasons. That line of thought has to be included in the conversation.

I think I get what you’re saying.

I wasn't leveling echo chamber accusations at anyone here, just saying that it was a likely component in the shooters' decisions.

Time will tell but I’m smelling the complete failure of compulsory education.

They hung on to him until he was completely bat**** and then they weren’t able to take out the garbage they created.

Well I think U2 is to blame.

The letter U and the numeral 2.

You forgot BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dead children who didn't do anything are more of a concern to me than dead oligarchs catching flak for imperialism.

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Thanks for the “help”

I blame soulless, middle class "quiet desperation". This is middle class gang violence in a very offbeat kind of way where they don't realize how much they are alienated from the world until a sociopath with a chip on their shoulder makes it apparent.

I definitely think that’s also a chapter in this guy’s biography. Well put.