The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

They wouldn't actually need to. The Republican party is currently working on the assumption that the Dems won't call them on their attempted coup but it was clearly a coup. If the Dems just took them seriously it would be ridiculous to push back on them arresting all of these people clearly trying to overthrow the government. If you're trying to require proof it was a coup then I'm sorry but eat a dick.

You can't on the one hand say we should arrest people who aren't implicated in provable crimes and then on the other hand act like anyone who might object to the arrests would be ridiculous. It's completely predictable and it's what should be expected in any even remotely functional liberal democracy.

Yup I guess we'd see what happens and who's willing to get shot, but better now than when the coup party has gone even farther.

Are you ruling out the prospect that it might actually end up for the worse, or do you just like to gamble?

[The Batlord]

Do you believe that the Republican Party would have rubber stamped Trump's coup if it had worked? Or if it had been smarter that more would have actively supported it? Do you believe they are currently trying to subvert the Democratic process through beaurpcratic ****ery?

If the answer to any of those is "yes" then why the **** are we even having this conversation?

[SGR]

The walls may be closing in on former President Donald Trump

[rubber soul]

Not going to happen. We live in a nation of double standards. The Republicans are accusing the Democrats of doing the same exact thing they did during Trump's reign.

[music_collector]

This reminds me of the three Spiderman meme.

The more things change
The more they stay the same
All we need's a miracle to take us all away from the pain
-Cinderella

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Do you believe that the Republican Party would have rubber stamped Trump's coup if it had worked? Or if it had been smarter that more would have actively supported it? Do you believe they are currently trying to subvert the Democratic process through beaurpcratic ****ery?

If the answer to any of those is "yes" then why the **** are we even having this conversation?

because none of what you said sounds like it amounts to **** as far as justifying arrests of people you yourself said might not have sufficient evidence against them

It's fine to larp about seizing power in such a fashion but doing so while clinging to the banner of saving democracy is just ****in lame.

[The Batlord]

Lame? Saying we should just outvote the people trying to make voting irrelevant is as cucked as it gets.

[Trollheart]

As a famous judge once said

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Lame? Saying we should just outvote the people trying to make voting irrelevant is as cucked as it gets.

the part that I was calling lame wasn't the idea of giving up on voting and instead using violence or whatever. It's this delusional sort of attitude you have that you are doing so because we have to do so to save democracy. If you are going to rely on talking points like that the Republicans are trying to destroy democracy anyway and so we can't just vote them out of power then you have already given up on democracy. The idea that we're just going to destroy the opposition through mass arrests and then go back to the form of government we had before is about as fanciful as it gets. It seems like you refuse to even consider any of this because it detracts from your point or something, but that's what I think is lame not the fact that you are fantasy plotting a counter coup.

[The Batlord]

Dip****. If you can look at the past few years of Stop the Steal, Jan 6, voter suppression, extreme gerrymandering, packing the courts to circumvent the democratic process, the Republican base drifting further and further from electability, and holding a CPAC event in Victor Orban's Hungary where a soft coup has already taken place and conclude that the Republican Party is not actively engaging in the annihilation of what already passes for democracy in this country then you are a rube.