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08-14-2021, 08:01 AM | #23012 (permalink) | |
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08-14-2021, 08:03 AM | #23013 (permalink) |
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I agree with the last few posts. I'm disappointed that the Afghan government couldn't do better at standing alone, but it shows the extent to which US/Brit intervention was trying to push water uphill the whole time: an effort likely to fail.
Moderate Afghans had a chance at self-government after the Russians left, but blew it because of corruption and in-house conflicts. Now they are blowing it again by being militarily unready. What bewilders me is how strong and/or popular the Taliban have remained, given their cruel repressive fundamentalism. This pre- and post- Taliban shot of the Bamiyan Buddahs sends a message: "Support the Taliban and we will reduce your life to rubble too"
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08-14-2021, 08:21 AM | #23014 (permalink) |
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Many were driven to it as a way to fight against their country being invaded. Removing foreign military presence will likely undercut that recruiting incentive and with a focus shifting from fighting the u.s. to domestic issues, there could be an organic turn of the tide against extremist groups. It's not like we can just put the cat back in the bag, but it might starve and die.
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I'm guessing any "good" Afghanis weren't corrupt enough to exist in the soon-to-be-not-current regime.
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08-14-2021, 11:20 PM | #23018 (permalink) | |
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What most people don't realize about the Soviet invasion is that, not that I'm defending the soviets, but they invaded after the local govt requested intervention. Because the govt at the time was allied with the USSR and was losing its grip on control of Afghanistan because insurgents who styled themselves as mujahideen or afghani nationalists... And they resented how the govt was pushing western/modern ideals like sending women to school, being more secular, etc. And the US was funding them before the soviets invaded. Yes, you heard me right. Not only were the soviets requested to intervene, but they were requested to do so after countries like the US and pakistan helped destabilize their country through covertly funding rebels to undermine the local govt and thus the Soviet sphere of influence in afghanistan. After said rebels bleed the Soviet invaders dry with asymmetric guerilla resistance, we no longer had a dog in that fight so we pulled out any involvement and allowed the inevitable power vacuum to devolve into inevitable chaos as different groups engaged in bloody civil conflict until the Taliban came to control most of the country. So yeah... Afghanistan didn't drop the ball here. They really never had a ball to drop in the first place. Last edited by jwb; 08-15-2021 at 12:46 AM. |
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08-16-2021, 07:03 AM | #23019 (permalink) | |
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