The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

**Janszoon** · 11-25-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

Of course not. But just like with home invasions, property owners should shoot those who break in.

You say "of course not", then immediately jump back to saying that looters should be killed. I'm confused. Please note that I'm not saying people don't have a right to defend themselves, I just disagree with the idea that the default response to looting should be death.

Zhanteimi · 11-25-2014, 07:37 PM

Looters should be met with lethal force, if necessary.

~~James~~ · 11-25-2014, 07:42 PM

Would any of you seriously be able to live with the fact you took another life? I know for a fact I couldn't.

Mondo Bungle · 11-25-2014, 07:46 PM

not a chance

GuD · 11-25-2014, 07:55 PM

Depends on the circumstances. I had people break into my room once and while terrifying beyond further description it couldn't, in that scenario, have been justified to shoot them. I don't have valuables, nor do I really want any. But, if any kind of violence were a threat to me or someone else in the household I would without doubt fight back with anything I could if I felt the situation could be overturned. Not with intent to kill, though. But if that was the result I would be able to cope with it. Depending on the circumstance I might not feel too bad about it. Possessions are one thing, I don't particularly care about that... but loved ones? Don't even. Ever.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 11-25-2014, 08:00 PM

my gut tells me i wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone i thought was a serious threat. like morally i really don't think it's bad. but i've had soldiers and criminals alike who have had to kill people tell me that everyone thinks they will be clint eastwood in the heat of the moment but when it actually happens to you then it hits you with what shooting someone actually means. so unless you've been tested like that it's naive to say how you would react one way or another but i don't fault people who shoot intruders. people know by now that kind of thing can get you shot. so anyone who invades homes is playing with fire and shouldn't expect too much sympathy when they get burned.

Overcast · 11-25-2014, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Would any of you seriously be able to live with the fact you took another life? I know for a fact I couldn't.

In reality when it comes down to it most people wouldn't who say they would. I do think that people have the right to shoot and possibly kill them for looting and posing danger to their lives/livelihood, though. Do I think that's ideal? No.

~~James~~ · 11-25-2014, 08:03 PM

I reckon I could kill someone if somebody I love was threatened, but it would ruin my life. I'd probably end up killing myself afterwards. I can't cope well with guilt, and I think of myself as a pacifist.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 11-25-2014, 08:05 PM

my gut really tells me that i definitely could live with it if i knew or thought they were a threat but like i said, never been there so it's impossible to really know. i find it really hard to imagine myself going suicidal over guilt.

OccultHawk · 11-25-2014, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Would any of you seriously be able to live with the fact you took another life? I know for a fact I couldn't.

Honestly, if it was some thug stealing my stuff it would bother me much more that they still lived. My place was broken into before. If I could inflict the death penalty on whoever did it it would be to my delight.

11-25-2014, 07:55 PM	#2075 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	Depends on the circumstances. I had people break into my room once and while terrifying beyond further description it couldn't, in that scenario, have been justified to shoot them. I don't have valuables, nor do I really want any. But, if any kind of violence were a threat to me or someone else in the household I would without doubt fight back with anything I could if I felt the situation could be overturned. Not with intent to kill, though. But if that was the result I would be able to cope with it. Depending on the circumstance I might not feel too bad about it. Possessions are one thing, I don't particularly care about that... but loved ones? Don't even. Ever. __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc

11-25-2014, 07:37 PM	#2072 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Looters should be met with lethal force, if necessary.

11-25-2014, 07:42 PM	#2073 (permalink)
~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	Would any of you seriously be able to live with the fact you took another life? I know for a fact I couldn't.

11-25-2014, 08:00 PM	#2076 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	my gut tells me i wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone i thought was a serious threat. like morally i really don't think it's bad. but i've had soldiers and criminals alike who have had to kill people tell me that everyone thinks they will be clint eastwood in the heat of the moment but when it actually happens to you then it hits you with what shooting someone actually means. so unless you've been tested like that it's naive to say how you would react one way or another but i don't fault people who shoot intruders. people know by now that kind of thing can get you shot. so anyone who invades homes is playing with fire and shouldn't expect too much sympathy when they get burned.

11-25-2014, 08:03 PM	#2078 (permalink)
~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	I reckon I could kill someone if somebody I love was threatened, but it would ruin my life. I'd probably end up killing myself afterwards. I can't cope well with guilt, and I think of myself as a pacifist.

11-25-2014, 08:05 PM	#2079 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	my gut really tells me that i definitely could live with it if i knew or thought they were a threat but like i said, never been there so it's impossible to really know. i find it really hard to imagine myself going suicidal over guilt.