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Old 02-07-2020, 07:20 AM   #20461 (permalink)
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Plenty of non-blanket genocide going around, Cletus.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:25 AM   #20462 (permalink)
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He just likes to feel confident and manly cause he was raised by deep south rednecks.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:42 AM   #20463 (permalink)
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no mention of the atrocities in which Jazz and Blues are born from in large part?

and The Marshall Plan? Yikes.

100% about crafting a world under US control where no country could fall to the pesky communists and their talk of self-determination
Lol stop being a little bitch. Circumstances aside, America still birthed jazz. As in, it wouldn't exist today without those circumstances. Did Europe or any other country have a jazz tradition before the U.S.? No.

I missed an obvious one a few pages back too - electricity. America <3
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:43 AM   #20464 (permalink)
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no mention of the atrocities in which Jazz and Blues are born from in large part?
^ Well, not in a list of things America can take some pride in, no. In an analysis of how art can grow out of atrocity, yes.

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^ Not sure how to respond to "Yikes" as a debating point, elph! Luckily, I'm off to work now, so don't have to explore the morality of the Marshall Plan, which tbh, I don't know much about apart from what they told me in High School.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:47 AM   #20465 (permalink)
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I missed an obvious one a few pages back too - electricity. America <3
^ That's right, Anteater: heart America:-

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Old 02-07-2020, 08:03 AM   #20466 (permalink)
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you're aware these are European diseases yes
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He just likes to feel confident and manly cause he was raised by deep south rednecks.
more projecting. My parents are from NY/NJ. I never had a political opinion before going on message boards... Nobody in my family gives a ****.
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:07 AM   #20468 (permalink)
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he's an only hip hop white guy so naturally his politics and worldview is...unsophisticated, to be nice

also see: Lucem and mindfulness
it's my favorite genre.. not the only one I like

I know you think liking post punk makes you smart but it's really just a fashion accessory.
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first: **** you

2nd the irony in taking national pride in what are essentially cultural deviations arising from the oppressed that were forcefully taken from their origin countries has some irony to it

worthy of an asterisk

especially sense it's glaringly obvious what American pride is really about here and it's not a celebration of diversity
No, but it's pointless whining about what you are talking about when you have centuries of history prior to America where civilizations were built on the oppression, enslavement, whatever of whoever happened to be there before. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Does Rome ring any bells? How about the Mongols? Domestically, the Aztecs and Mayan civilizations were into some bad **** as well. Are those cultures devoid of merit despite the millions that suffered?

If you want something practical out of this, I'd recommend appreciating the fact that if diversity didn't matter in America, you wouldn't have multi-billion dollar companies and organizations pushing messages about toxic masculinity, the "evils of white nationalism", lots of imagery of mixed race couples, etc. into the mainstream or making Colin Kaepernick the face of an ad campaign that spent millions upon millions to reach a lot of people. Going by all that, I'd say diversity and the desire to perpetuate it is alive and well.
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he's an only hip hop white guy so naturally his politics and worldview is...unsophisticated, to be nice

also see: Lucem and mindfulness
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