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Old 11-15-2019, 07:29 PM   #19661 (permalink)
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This is where I believe you are wrong. We'll see.
Bro people have lived for millennia upon millennia under countless forms of despotism and just kind of went with it, living their lives, worrying about the things that directly affected them, and either ignoring or lazily commenting on things that didn't. We just so happen to have a form of government now where you have some kind of voice, some kind of way to affect change, but it hasn't changed the basic way in which we live under governments, except maybe to lazily comment more and more. I mean come on, unless the economy collapses and you and your family are literally starving there is no more chance that you'll pick up a weapon and challenge the government than if you were living in feudal France or czarist Russia or a province under the thumb of the Roman Empire. People don't care. They just want to eat and procreate and not have to deal with **** they don't think they should have to deal with.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:35 PM   #19662 (permalink)
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Americans are different and better than that because they're from where I was born, though.

Anyways,

Trump pardons two officers and restores the rank of a third after all faced war crimes allegations
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:42 PM   #19663 (permalink)
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Americans are different and better than that because they're from where I was born, though.

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Trump pardons two officers and restores the rank of a third after all faced war crimes allegations
Is there some subtle difference between this and every other time the US has pardoned war criminals? Cause this just sounds like business as usual. Is Trump using the Presidential pardon more high profile than is generally desired?
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:47 PM   #19664 (permalink)
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Is there some subtle difference between this and every other time the US has pardoned war criminals?
Nah, there's just breathless reporting about it this time because they know people got their dicks out ready to click on any headline with the t-word. He would get **** on if he did the reasonable thing and publicly executed the war criminals too. It does somewhat align with the convo about excusing immoral actions in order to maintain the status quo, though.
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:06 PM   #19665 (permalink)
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Like how did Americans not riot over Lt. Calley being put under house arrest for a few years rather than serving real time for over twenty murders? Oh yeah cause people don't care.
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:52 PM   #19666 (permalink)
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Bro people have lived for millennia upon millennia under countless forms of despotism and just kind of went with it, living their lives, worrying about the things that directly affected them, and either ignoring or lazily commenting on things that didn't.
You want to live under the current North Korean despot regime or the current United States despot regime?

Simple answer please.
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:54 PM   #19667 (permalink)
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You want to live under the current North Korean despot regime or the current United States despot regime?

Simple answer please.
And this is why My Lai happens. Over and over again. Throughout history. "Would you rather the bad people won?"
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TIL that Chula supports Trump's behaviour because it's not as bad as the stuff that this one fat Asian dude does.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:05 PM   #19669 (permalink)
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And this is why My Lai happens. Over and over again. Throughout history. "Would you rather the bad people won?"
You didn't answer the question. I wasn't surprised.
Carry on with your pointless dissertation.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:07 PM   #19670 (permalink)
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Why would I engage with your Cold War nonsense? It's designed to make it okay to invade this country or that country based on what those politicians you keep bitching bout tell you.

Last time I checked North Korea was not about to invade America so...
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