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The Batlord 11-05-2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2087990)
Not really because 'harm' and 'help' in the context of humanity is more complicated than you make it to be. I'm not willing to die on the hill of those two things being the only things but you really have done a **** job of convincing me otherwise. Really, I'm just rejecting the idea that morality is a purely subjective idea built by culture when I think it's more than just what we've been taught.

Just remember he's trying to bring this back to a traditionalist American view where it's okay to be a neoliberal watching CNN on TV. He hates Hillary Clinton but he really is Hillary Clinton.

Lucem Ferre 11-05-2019 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2087991)
Just remember he's trying to bring this back to a traditionalist American view where it's okay to be a neoliberal watching CNN on TV. He hates Hillary Clinton but he really is Hillary Clinton.

JWB killed Epstein?

The Batlord 11-05-2019 10:09 PM

I'm sure he'd justify it while never having the balls to do it himself.

Lisnaholic 11-06-2019 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2087985)
I dunno pretty sure your family can get sent to a "re-education" camp in China

^ I think that was true in the era of Chairman Mau, but things have changed a lot since then haven't they? TBH, my knowledge of life in China is very outdated; basically, it stops where this amazing book stops, with 1992:-

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...qhVomT2QPJ8A&s
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As well as being a joke at Trump's expense, this is a feel-good story about how democracy still works. Ordinary people for the win :tramp:

Virginia Elects Woman Who Gave President The Finger: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50315490

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...lMVjkvm9bk6A&s


Spoiler for Extract from article:
Virginia elects woman who gave president the finger

A woman who was fired for raising her middle finger at US President Donald Trump's motorcade has been elected to local office in Virginia.

Juli Briskman's hand gesture went viral in 2017, leading to her losing a job with a government contractor.

The single mother won more than 52% of the vote to be elected district representative in Loudoun county.

At the state level, US Democrats have seized full control of the Virginia legislature.

OccultHawk 11-06-2019 06:53 AM

Wild Swans is great read. Insanely engrossing.

OccultHawk 11-06-2019 07:04 AM

From what I’ve been reading the Chinese government is just as brutal today though. It’s not as chaotic but you better not make a squeak or they’ll go after your whole family. They got cameras and drones everywhere and they give you a public rating number. They got Big Brother, Hitler (Uighurs), and Stalin rolling at the same time.

The world is in a very bad time. Everybody who predicts the end is wrong. Except the last guy. We’re gettting there, hopefully. I’d rather we had a new global common persons revolution though. Probably the best play is mostly pacifistic with targeted assassinations and executions on billionaires and politicians. I want to call it the Anarchist Hope Brigade.

jwb 11-06-2019 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2087972)
I imagine the people in Tienanmen Square did not actually realize the level of reprisals they would face. Or if they did they thought the rest of the country would rise up with them in horror and start a chain reaction. That did not happen. So what are the Hong Kongers banking on? I mean if this is all "**** you kill us we don't care we're sick of you" then hell ****ing yeah but I don't think most people are as nihilistic as that.

I don't think they're banking on anything, other than maybe trying to invoke the US/ international community to intervene. Which isn't going to happen. They're doing the only thing they can that has the slightest chance of working visa resistance.

It's like asking what are the people in Palestine banking on by attacking Israel. They have to know they're out matched. But what else is there to do?

Extreme scenarios like this will bring out an extreme amount of resilience in human beings that you and I can't even begin to comprehend.

OccultHawk 11-06-2019 07:31 AM

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It's like asking what are the people in Palestine banking on by attacking Israel. They have to know they're out matched. But what else is there to do?
Live peacefully in the more than generous territory they’ve been given and stop blowing up busses and markets and constantly aggressively trying to expand and inflict genocide on Israel.

The Batlord 11-06-2019 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2088017)
Live peacefully in the more than generous territory they’ve been given and stop blowing up busses and markets and constantly aggressively trying to expand and inflict genocide on Israel.

The American government has been more than generous with you. You have access to food, water, shelter, healthcare, and you have the audacity to spit on them just cause you're too big of a nutjob to take advantage of everything that's been provided for you.

OccultHawk 11-06-2019 07:52 AM

That’s cute.


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