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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2087548)

I mean by that logic why don't I just murder you and take your **** and your imaginary Kenyan girlfriend? I think it would be pretty funny if I could get away with it in this context.

I'd have a better shot at destroying your comic collection methinks. :laughing:

I personally think you'd be better off just murdering your boss or something if you wanted to upset the status quo in your life.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2087549)

you're creating a moral imperative with no cohesive way to achieve it

It's very similar to tying a man up, murdering his wife in front of him, and then chastising him for not defending her

Sorry but "I don't know how" = you are proposing nothing but sentiment and well wishes.

It's a sentiment humankind has been moving toward for thousands of years. It's why we apply morality to literally every single aspect of our lives. It doesn't make sense and has no logical outcome but it's our imperative that we've taken upon ourselves and so we must and will see it through because the alternative is turning to pure pragmatism which I have already put on blast. It's why socialism exists as an ideal and I say it's as good as any utopian ideal we've come up with that is probably unworkable but nice sounding so if the rest of the human race decides it's a hill worth dying on then I'll go along with it happily. It's better than liberal moral death (your route), which is basically where we're headed at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2087552)

I'd have a better shot at destroying your comic collection methinks. :laughing:

Bat’s dick is so small it doesn’t count if he “****s” your girlfriend.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2087552)

I'd have a better shot at destroying your comic collection methinks. :laughing:

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The point is that you can "do" whatever you want to someone else if you don't fear repercussions or consequences. But we all have those fears to some extent. It's the glue that holds society together despite massive variations on the spectrum of individual morality between people.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2087554)

Bat’s dick is so small it doesn’t count if he “****s” your girlfriend.

Does he even like black chicks?

It's not wanting to do those things that holds society together. If people wanted to do that **** they'd find a way. That's why capitalism exists. That's the terrible **** that people actually want to do to each other.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2087553)

It's a sentiment humankind has been moving toward for thousands of years. It's why we apply morality to literally every single aspect of our lives.[/QUOTE[no, it's not.

It doesn't make sense and has no logical outcome but it's our imperative that we've taken upon ourselves and so we must and will see it through because the alternative is turning to pure pragmatism which I have already put on blast. It's why socialism exists as an ideal and I say it's as good as any utopian ideal we've come up with that is probably unworkable but nice sounding so if the rest of the human race decides it's a hill worth dying on then I'll go along with it happily. It's better than liberal moral death (your route), which is basically where we're headed at the moment.

the choice isn't even between global socialism and ordinary geopolitics. You can choose to stop investing in military supremacy. The likely result will be another power supercedes us, not that we form a global communist collective.

If you completely reject any cricism based on pragmatism the likelihood of you coming up with an unworkable plan that fails and only makes things worse is exceedingly high.

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Does he even like black chicks?

lol

I’ve actually heard straight white guys seriously saying they wouldn’t **** a black woman.

Personally, I don’t believe that anyone on earth is that racist.

In my experience most suburban white men fall in that category

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2087562)

Pragmatism doesn't even work though. All societies eventually disintegrate due to the unforeseen consequences of their pragmatism (often because their pragmatism caused significant ill will in the people who brought about their downfall) and inside of those societies pragmatism causes stratification and misery. The way it always ends up working for dumb humans due to short term "best we can do" dip**** logic that ignores actual longterm planning is a cycle of growth and collapse.