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09-21-2019, 12:39 AM | #19101 (permalink) |
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My point was on propaganda. Indoctrination. The fact that you can't admit the soviets didn't really provide a useful model for how to structure an economy is due to your indoctrination. You don't have to give up on communism to admit that. You just have to stop defending failed experiments while also paradoxically trying to disassociate those experiments with what true communism would look like. |
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That's not to say it couldn't ever work...but I think it's a logistical nightmare that makes the U.S. look like Candyland in comparison.
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As far as personal experience goes....I was in poverty for the first 20 years or so of my life and I spent eight of those lying about my age to local grocers, restaurants, etc. and working my ass off. Did a year in a warehouse, another in a slaughterhouse. I know what it's like to have nothing and it sucks and drains the life out of you. But I'm not going to change my conclusions about this stuff (in regards to a macro-oriented discussion) just because they want to turn this into an emotional spitfest. Having a "woe is me" attitude in the face of the majority never did me a lick of good. If I had taken a leaf out of Bats or OH's book growing up I'd be dead as doornail in a ditch somewhere.
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It's significant enough that I'd be willing to vote Yang or Warren or even Sanders into office if they want to push policies that can find a way to deal with inflation as well as stagnated wages in places where the cost of living has skyrocketed.
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I didn't. Yesterday was littered with comments directed toward me like "I'm out of touch" as well as a bunch of snide personal attacks. What am I supposed to say to that other than elaborating on my own personal viewpoints? I can only speak for my own personal experiences growing up in poverty and having to support other people besides myself. If you disagree with them, you should explain why in greater detail instead of belittling me because I don't hate everything about capitalism.
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