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07-22-2019, 07:22 AM | #18421 (permalink) | ||
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__________________________________________________ _________________________ It's a bit unfair to take a position of "You like anarchy? Go be an anarchist" imo. It sounds uncomfortably like Trump's "If you don't like it, leave," which even by Trump standards is an offensive and hypocritical slogan. I was puzzled at how people were talking about anarchy and communism, and even coming up with the term anarcho communism. Aren't those two ideas mutually exclusive? Anarchy is about having no rules, living on a commune is full of rules from day one I imagine. A friend of mine did actually walk the walk by volunteering on a kibbutz in Israel for six months: still an option for anyone afaik, incl non-Jews:- https://kibbutzvolunteers.org.il/ He came back with stories of lots hard work and regulations, but he had first-hand experience of what is prob the world's most successful experiment in voluntary communism. Thousands of people have lived on kibbutzes, which have been around for 70 years or so. Meanwhile, I stayed at home, thank you very much, and made do with reading Jerry Richard's book, which paints an intriguing but rather sad picture of short-lived American communes - but yeah, it's a great read if you're curious about wacky idealists who walked the walk and ended up floundering in the mud of reality:- Spoiler for big pic of book:
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07-22-2019, 07:30 AM | #18422 (permalink) | |
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07-22-2019, 07:39 AM | #18423 (permalink) | |
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And I'm not telling them to leave. I just asked why you wouldn't want to join one. The communes are in the United States btw, but nice try @ OH there's absolutely nothing you can say that will bring me down or hurt my feelings. You don't think I'm already aware of my flaws? Living through it was worse than any snide remark you can make Keep trying though.I love attention. |
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07-22-2019, 07:49 AM | #18425 (permalink) | ||
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I get that it sounds idealistic but since competition and hierarchy have proven to be not only unsustainable but also an assured path to extinction, well a 1% chance is better than none. And even though communism has the viscious track record of Stalin and Mao and others it’s still worth going back to the drawing board. Quote:
Automation plus UBI could be a gigantic step into a post-capitalist framework.
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07-22-2019, 07:57 AM | #18428 (permalink) |
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07-22-2019, 08:06 AM | #18429 (permalink) |
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