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The Batlord 07-21-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2067066)
The communes already exist. People are living in them. They are making enough to live off. They pay taxes, yes. So do you. Stop copping out
Why don't you join?

Just say you can't give up your privileged life to live on a farm and I'll understand.

I think you're making the assumption that modern Liberal capitalism allows for all forms of habitation equally. I've looked up communes. They're few, far between, and generally don't seem to exist for long. The reasons for this are debatable of course but the idea that I could just Google "communes near me" and just start my new life is silly.

jwb 07-21-2019 07:40 PM

Pretty sure I was watching a video about one in Virgina not too long ago. I think they're definitely out there.

And yes it takes a specific kind of person. Namely one who walks the walk.

jwb 07-21-2019 07:44 PM

Lol this took me like 2 seconds

Acorn Community – An egalitarian, income-sharing, secular, anarchist, feminist, consensus-based intentional community. Supporting radical sharing, positive communication, compassion, consent culture, sustainability, and anti-oppression activism

And yes obviously you need to do more research before making a life decision. But I'm not sure you're correct that these places aren't available.

I think you're just underestimating how rugged agrarian life can be.

The Batlord 07-21-2019 07:55 PM

I know they exist, I've looked, like I've said, but in general they don't tend to last long. And the kind of person who starts/joins one isn't just someone who "walks the walk", they're generally someone predisposed to far left ideologies who are out of step with "normal" society. I'm sure plenty of rank-in-file people would exist perfectly well in a commune, but they don't try to because they're acculturated to capitalism and mainstream society and so they just live their lives in mainstream society and aren't a part of any potential study on how "just anyone" would fare in a commune.

jwb 07-21-2019 08:01 PM

Well, this one's been around since 93 apparently. Seems like a decent run for an anarcho commune I reckon.

And yes but the walk the walk person is generally the same as the idealogical hard liner. Cause those are the only ones crazy enough to walk that particular walk.

Normal people don't want to join your communes cause we like our smart phones etc. And communes like this really thrive the most at a small size, 250 people or less. Start getting thousands involved and things get messy.

OccultHawk 07-21-2019 08:02 PM

Communes can’t co-exist with private property and communism can’t co-exist with capitalism so as long as America exists there’s no alternative.

Frownland 07-21-2019 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067073)
Communes can’t co-exist with private property and communism can’t co-exist with capitalism so as long as America exists there’s no alternative.

You're arguing in favour of compulsory schooling.

OccultHawk 07-21-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2067074)
You're arguing in favour of compulsory schooling.

If that’s your extrapolation then ok.

jwb 07-21-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067073)
Communes can’t co-exist with private property and communism can’t co-exist with capitalism so as long as America exists there’s no alternative.

so you prefer being a cog in the machine while paying taxes to joining an agrarian commune while paying taxes. Makes sense.

OccultHawk 07-21-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2067076)
so you prefer being a cog in the machine while paying taxes to joining an agrarian commune while paying taxes. Makes sense.

There are no communes.


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