The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

**Frownland** · 06-09-2019, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

That doesn't explain how the guy in the video is a Nazi.

That's because Nazism is a specific movement of fascism and you're already so confused with this terminology, so I only went into the fascist element.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-09-2019, 09:56 AM

No argument provided. Third time lucky?

**Frownland** · 06-09-2019, 09:58 AM

Did my explanation of how Trump supporters are fascists not suffice?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-09-2019, 10:02 AM

"Trump supporters are generally fascists" isn't an explanation of how that man who got milkshaked is a Nazi.

**Frownland** · 06-09-2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

"Trump supporters are generally fascists" isn't an explanation of how that man who got milkshaked is a Nazi.

That's because, as I've already mentioned, Nazism is a specific form of fascism. I was responding to this:

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Originally Posted by Fluff

"fascist" lol

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-09-2019, 10:10 AM

Well respond to the other bit after watching the video then.

**Frownland** · 06-09-2019, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

Well respond to the other bit after watching the video then.

You want me to argue that the Trump supporter is a member of a defunct German political party?

Lucem Ferre · 06-09-2019, 10:28 AM

Nazi isn't supposed to be taken literal. It's more of a comparative thing that Frown already spelled out. The fascism, bigotry and propaganda of Trump and his supporters is supposedly on par with the Nazi party according to the assaulter. I don't get where you're getting lost on this. That you disagree and think it's hyperbole? Yeah. Probably. But hyperbole hasn't taken the meaning of these words.

Anteater · 06-09-2019, 10:45 AM

I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people. It's a form of ad hominem. No different than when right-wing people label anyone left of center as an SJW for standing up for minorities.

So these protestors acting unhinged, throwing **** at people, busting public property like ANTIFA tend to do in Portland and other areas, etc....it doesn't paint a picture that they're actually fighting fascism. Rather, it comes off like a violent projection of some kind when I don't see the guys in MAGA hats committing those same kinds of actions at that event on video.

**Frownland** · 06-09-2019, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people.

I support Hitler, but don't be mad at me, I'm just a regular guy living my life.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	No argument provided. Third time lucky?

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	"Trump supporters are generally fascists" isn't an explanation of how that man who got milkshaked is a Nazi.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Well respond to the other bit after watching the video then.