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Old 03-19-2019, 09:25 PM   #17451 (permalink)
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^ That's pretty on-point actually. You see it all over the world in every major culture across time.
I hate how you word things. Like this. ****ing duh. Tribalism isn't a new concept. And yet for this point you paint the aesthetic that it's only now just being brought up and you are assuming the role of the generic middle class white pseudo-intellectual who is recognizing new information and as a gatekeeper to generic middle class white pseudo-intellectualism (which you manage to imply in one sentence IS intellectualism) you are giving the idea legitimacy that it needs by virtue of being recognized by one of your caste.

You do it so ****ing much in different ways and it's the smarmiest bull****.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:34 PM   #17452 (permalink)
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I hate how you word things. Like this. ****ing duh. Tribalism isn't a new concept. And yet for this point you paint the aesthetic that it's only now just being brought up and you are assuming the role of the generic middle class white pseudo-intellectual who is recognizing new information and as a gatekeeper to generic middle class white pseudo-intellectualism (which you manage to imply in one sentence IS intellectualism) you are giving the idea legitimacy that it needs by virtue of being recognized by one of your caste.

You do it so ****ing much in different ways and it's the smarmiest bull****.
Other people have brought up all these points before on other threads. Just because I say something doesn't make it special. You need to smoke some weed or something and relax. Nobody is going to come up with some magical remedy for white supremacy here (or whatever eventually replaces it).

I don't really care if you want to project for the sake of projection, but the whining gets tedious when people complain about something ridiculously abstract yet somehow all-powerfully pervasive. Your no different than those jackasses back in the 80's who whined about heavy metal corrupting the youth but when pressed couldn't come up with anything concrete other than "it's just there111".
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:38 PM   #17453 (permalink)
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Other people have brought up all these points before on other threads. Just because I say something doesn't make it special. You need to smoke some weed or something and relax.
Your points aren't the point. It's how you come off as a tedious yuppie matter-of-factly bringing up the Wallstreet Journal. It reminds me of this.

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Ouchies, i got called a yuppie. The absolute horror.

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so now you're recognizing it as a problem?
In the extremely nobody-can-do-anything-about-it abstract sense, yeah. Which I was pointing to in my first few posts pages ago.
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:18 PM   #17455 (permalink)
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Is it fair to say that the crux of what you’re saying is that white people dont have a monopoly on bad behavior?
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but what if I told you there are public policies that totally do something about it

and Yang supports some of them
He's on the right track (especially if some form of UBI revitalizes middle America), but when you are talking about "white supremacy" you are talking about something a lot more vague than political power. For instance, Yang (and a few other candidates) have brought up "modernized" voting where people could vote without going to polling stations via online methods and then get verified by some massive cloud system or blockchain. Voting participation would skyrocket, but the largest voting bloc of people demographically in the U.S. right now are still white people at the moment. It's also basically forcing everyone everywhere to utilize some form of ID too.

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Is it fair to say that the crux of what you’re saying is that white people dont have a monopoly on bad behavior?
That's fair to say. I just find it sad that we don't have more practical solutions available to defuse all the hatred and fear brewing in the hearts of both the have's and also the have-nots of the world. You often see a phrase like "money is the root of all evil" around, but it's really something more like "fear and uncertainty are the root of all evil".
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Did anybody catch that hilarious heavy metal analogy Ant used?

So like, Ant doesn't think white supremacy is a problem because tribalism exists in all forms of culture and it'll be worse if Hispanics were the majority because they aren't white.
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Did anybody catch that hilarious heavy metal analogy Ant used?

So like, Ant doesn't think white supremacy is a problem because tribalism exists in all forms of culture and it'll be worse if Hispanics were the majority because they aren't white.
I'm saying it doesn't matter who the majority is because they'd all act the same way once in power..which puts you back to square one if that was your big takeaway. Look at any other country in the world where one demographic dominates. Are you going to go lecture China that they should have less Chinese people so more African-expats (or anyone who is born over there that aren't biologically Chinese) can have market share? What does that even look like?

In the case of Hispanics, it wouldn't be worse. It's simply more likely that they'll be the next majority in the U.S. census-wise.
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In the case of Hispanics, it wouldn't be worse. It's simply more likely that they'll be the next majority in the U.S. census-wise.
Based on what? Statistics from the 80s and 90s that assume they'll continue their immigration rates in perpetuity even though immigration and birth rates have been declining since the 00s? Congrats on being a reactionary white alarmist.
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