The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[DwnWthVwls]

Yeah, but it's still a point I made, and I feel like most of the time I'm emotionless and so logic driven that I get criticized for my lack of empathy and/or poor reasoning.

Youre just ad homineming him. Wheres your counter argument?

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

So you agree that you're being hysterical? I mean associating terrorists with regular ass boring Muslims would be like associating free jazz fans with people who only listen to what they hear on the radio, right?

You’re doing exactly what DWV said.

if catholics were some oppressed minority with their leaders doing the same **** you'd be making excuses for every flaw.

lol

You’re dead in the water.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yeah, but it's still a point I made, and I feel like most of the time I'm emotionless and so logic driven that I get criticized for my lack of empathy and/or poor reasoning.

I think you're dispassionate to a point that you don't recognize when you are making an argument from emotion since perhaps you're not used to dealing with that. Like your stance on junkies that you've made from personal experience. I can't believe emotion hasn't influenced your opinion on that, and as much as I joke about you being autistic I do think you might be, and autism can make one rigid and closed off to other points of view that might make it clear that you're not being as rational as you'd like to think.

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

I think you're dispassionate to a point that you don't recognize when you are making an argument from emotion since perhaps you're not used to dealing with that. Like your stance on junkies that you've made from personal experience. I can't believe emotion hasn't influenced your opinion on that, and as much as I joke about you being autistic I do think you might be, and autism can make one rigid and closed off to other points of view that might make it clear that you're not being as rational as you'd like to think.

That argument is based entirely on limited human resources. I've already expressed that if we had limitless time and resources we should help them too, but since we don't priorities are mandatory, and junkies are low on the list. You just add in your own take because you dont like my rational.

[Frownland]

Dozens scammed after buying tickets for fake brunch in Del Mar

Lol, I love a good scam against the rich. No one will ever top Fyre fest though, that **** was epic.

[The Batlord]

Youre just ad homineming him. Wheres your counter argument?

How do I argue with someone being emotional and reactionary? Prejudice isn't a logical position. The logical arguments have been put to him many times in the past and he's brushed them off seemingly without a second thought. Criticizing Islam and religion is one thing but demonizing a whole group of people the way OH does is a leap off a logical cliff that precludes reason and all I can really be arsed to do is try to point out the root of his bad logic. He supports genocide against Muslims in Myanmar ffs.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

That argument is based entirely on limited human resources. I've already expressed that if we had limitless time and resources we should help them too, but since we don't priorities are mandatory, and junkies are low on the list. You just add in your own take because you dont like my rational.

*rationale

And I don't remember where that conversation took place but after much cross examination about why you felt the way you do by at least myself and Frown, probably elph too, it was pretty obvious you held disdain that wasn't entirely based in cold reason.

[DwnWthVwls]

*rationale*!!!

So how is that different than the position you guys are taking with Catholics exactly? That's the question I was expecting you to answer.

My disdain is definitely real but I dont see what that has to do with my argument. Junkies are pieces of shit, but if we have the resources to help them we should. My emotions about them as people is not reflected in my reasoning because I separate the bias.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

So how is that different than the position you guys are taking with Catholics exactly? That's the question I was expecting you to answer.

I already told you. The Pope is infallible, the Pope runs the Vatican, several Popes haven't made any noticeable effort to purge pedophiles and those who have enabled them over the years, and since Catholics are supposed to believe that their Pope is infallible then either they're bad Catholics who don't pay attention to the Pope or they stick their fingers in their ears and pretend all is well. Either way Catholics continue to at least tacitly support a regime that enables pedophiles and since the nature of Catholicism is to consider the actions (or non-actions) of the Pope to be infallible then they are tacitly supporting pedophiles, which by association supports pedophilia. No matter how much Catholics realize this it doesn't make it not true.

This is different with Muslims because they do not have an infallible, central authority who dictates what they do and do not believe so they are not inherently responsible for the actions of Islamic terrorists.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

My emotions about them as people is not reflected in my reasoning because I separate the bias.

Nobody separates bias. Not completely. That's not how people work and you are not a computer.