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Lucem Ferre 02-16-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2044000)
Or maybe you don’t understand that racism is hatred for a RACE not a religion.

No, I just didn't understand the comment was about people being too afraid of being bigots to boycott the Catholics for pedophillia. My bad. It hit me. I'm also sick, don't hold it against me I do have a headache.

Lucem Ferre 02-16-2019 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2043992)
They're cherrypicking a belief system as a way to justify supporting an institution that perpetuates rape and paedophelia on a global scale and has been for literally thousands of years. I don't think that I'm being unfair here.

What exactly are they cherry picking to justify supporting the church?

Sure, I see a lack of Catholics holding their 'leaders' accountable, but is sharing a belief system that's being exploited by despicable people the same as supporting them? Unless it's doctrine, no.

OccultHawk 02-16-2019 11:30 PM

The number of cases is so staggering high that anyone who is a priest or higher in the Catholic church should be assumed to be a pedo.

Frownland 02-16-2019 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2044003)
Sure, I see a lack of Catholics holding their 'leaders' accountable, but is sharing a belief system that's being exploited by despicable people the same as supporting them? Unless it's doctrine, no.

Yes, it provides the Catholic church with social value in numbers because if I tell someone that I'm a Catholic and they decide to check it out, they're going to find some wing of the rape institution to learn about it.

OccultHawk 02-16-2019 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2044005)
Yes, it provides the Catholic church with social value in numbers because if I tell someone that I'm a Catholic and they decide to check it out, they're going to find some wing of the rape institution to learn about it.

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Lucem Ferre 02-16-2019 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2044005)
Yes, it provides the Catholic church with social value in numbers because if I tell someone that I'm a Catholic and they decide to check it out, they're going to find some wing of the rape institution to learn about it.

Again, it goes to the lack of holding their priests accountable though it doesn't mean being Catholic means you support pedophilia unless it's doctrine. You're completely reaching to justify hating Catholics.

How is the idea of holding every catholic accountable for what a bunch of priests have done any different than the type of bigotry you scrutinized [merit] for having towards Jews despite [merit] claiming that his disdain was only towards Jewish people he felt were secretly influencing world events? Seems like you're cherry picking which religion it's okay to be bigoted towards. As well as spreading the same kind of hateful propaganda.

Frownland 02-16-2019 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2044007)
Again, it goes to the lack of holding their priests accountable though it doesn't mean being Catholic means you support pedophilia unless it's doctrine. You're completely reaching to justify hating Catholics.

I'm reaching past doctrine and grabbing actions. The bolded says it all.

Lucem Ferre 02-16-2019 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2044008)
I'm reaching past doctrine and grabbing actions. The bolded says it all.

I'd debate that I really don't know enough about Catholic culture to know how true that is.

Could also be argued that being American we should be held responsible for what our country does. Still doesn't make it different that what you've accused [merit] of.

Edit: https://iowastartingline.com/2018/08...-church-abuse/

I'm sure there's much, much more evidence than this of Catholic outrage over what goes on in their church. What exactly do you suggest they do differently? Seems to me that plenty of people have tried and failed to have these priests held accountable. Most of them were probably Catholic since it's their children being raped.



More: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ca...-up-2018-08-20

Frownland 02-17-2019 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2044009)
Seems to me that plenty of people have tried and failed to have these priests held accountable [for] their children being raped.

It's almost like this behaviour is so ingrained in the Catholic church that challenging it garners the same results from the institution as criticizing its doctrine.

Lucem Ferre 02-17-2019 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2044010)
It's almost like this behaviour is so ingrained in the Catholic church that challenging garners the same results from the institution as criticizing its doctrine.

Note that it's from the institution and not from the religious. So how are the Catholics responsible for an institution that bullies them or actively prevents them from holding their church accountable?

Also, how are you not jumping to conclusions by assuming that being Catholic automatically means you aren't trying to hold the church accountable?

There's plenty of Catholics, even with in the system, that have tried and are disgusted. Yet you still think it's justifiable to hold them accountable just for having this belief despite the pedophilia having nothing to do with the belief.

Edit: How is this any different from your accusations towards [merit], or how is this any different from OH's bigotry towards Muslims for what happens with in their institutions?


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