The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[The Batlord]

irl merit

[Frownland]

Shhhh....he's going to figure out that we're aliens.

[windsock]

Originally Posted by WWWP

Baiting is against the rules on this forum.

lmao

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Financial Transaction Tax has been referred to as the Robin Hood tax

similar to a capital gains tax

Bernie Sanders has proposed an increase in these taxes several times before, along with other Democrats you would call SJW's

Yeah but Sanders is just a career politician who wouldn't know how to lead an organization or get serious policy implemented at gunpoint. Russia had to basically run his Facebook ads for him just to get any traction lol.

On the other hand, Yang's built a fortune and organization in a fraction of the amount of time Sanders has served. He's a long shot for 2020 but he's the only candidate I've seen who could bring about real change.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by elphenor

but as for Sanders ability to get things done

he got half a million workers a substantial pay raise by scaring Bezos

because that is what the government is supposed to do, act as a check on entrepreneurs, not put them as head of state

Amazon was already planning on increasing wages by Q4 last year though: hiring had slowed down and they needed to incentivize in order to reach a larger labor pool. I'll give Sanders credit for timing though: sometimes picking a fight can be good PR if you line up the right optics.

Originally Posted by elphenor

building a personal fortune has nothing to do with good governance

actually wishy washy nonesense like "can lead an organization" means nothing, what matters is P O L I C Y

what are the stances on the issues, the president does very little actual ground work organization

this is why I accuse you of the same kind of identity politics you have disparaged

Yang is an entrepreneur Silicon Valley guy, and you identify with that

1. Depends on how the fortune was built. Speaking from personal experience: there is nothing more challenging that scaling an organization without potentially wrecking it. The fact someone can pull that off tells me more about a person's capabilities than someone who sits in Washington for decades and votes A or B. The dude is so out of touch that Russia (and possibly China) ended up using him as a wedge to weaken the Democratic Party. His heart's in the right place, but I think if he had the ability to build an organization he would have demonstrated it decades ago.

2. The effectiveness of the President as a leader depends on their background. We need more specialists willing to aspire to that office, not more of what we've had throughout the 20th and 21st century so far. Trump, for example, is arguably ****ty in most respects as a businessman and human being (unlike Yang), but his approach to China has been far more effective than anything previous administrations have come up with. If you look at the geopolitical long-game at least. The fact that he can get any results at all despite all of his weaknesses tells me that there's value to having a POTUS who doesn't have a political background and comes from some other walk of life.

A bigger concern I have is that Sanders appears to have an even weaker grasp on economics than Trump does (as his comments on health care have shown): I have zero confidence in his ability to position the U.S. to adapt to coming changes in tech, automation, etc, as well as being able to respond to whatever China ends up doing.

The ideal leader for the Democratic Party is somebody who actually has the capabilities to grasp the real problems we are facing and how we might combat them. Biden, Sanders, and Warren are not those people: they're all career politicians with zero technical ability. Give me a POTUS who did something like architecting software, or someone with an engineering background....just anything other than another lawyer or former mayor/senator/governor.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by windsock

lmao

It's okay to bait people that the mods find to be despicable. These wonderful and lovely mods that I do adore an awful lot.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by elphenor

he had been picking a fight for almost 6 months and forced Amazon to release a public statement of defense of their working conditions

in Bezos statement about why he raised the wage he states "We listened to our critics, thought hard about what we wanted to do, and decided we want to lead"

minus the PR talk what he said was: "We were starting to look really bad thanks to this old grouchy jew, and it wasn't going to be much longer until he forced us to do it anyway"

A certain orange-faced leader of the free world has Sanders beaten in that department methinks.

[WWWP]

i guess i was just too young to fully comprehend the implications when the peepee tape surfaced.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by WWWP

i guess i was just too young to fully comprehend the implications when the peepee tape surfaced.

My friend said that he kind of regrets watching it because he can never appreciate R. Kelly's music the same way now.

[Unitron]

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