The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Like I said, he was bad. But as far as his connections and backhanded intent, there are many schools of thought. He was responsible for the deaths of A LOT of people, not just Jews. And he was a Nationalist and a Socialist, both of which are undesirable.

And I'm not saying it was done to create the state of Israel, but that the state of Israel, as we know it, would not exist, or would have taken VASTLY longer to come to fruition, if there had not been a global propaganda war, painting Jews as victims [which they were, just to a lesser extent than advertised].

[windsock]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Like I said, he was bad. But as far as his connections and backhanded intent, there are many schools of thought. He was responsible for the deaths of A LOT of people, not just Jews. And he was a Nationalist and a Socialist, both of which are undesirable.

And I'm not saying it was done to create the state of Israel, but that the state of Israel, as we know it, would not exist, or would have taken VASTLY longer to come to fruition, if there had not been a global propaganda war, painting Jews as victims [which they were, just to a lesser extent than advertised].

Yeah my intention was not to paint you as an ally of Hitler. All I wanted to do was make clear my stance on him being evil. Sorry if I came across wrong.

Aside from that, I respect skepticism, however for me to take part in believing what you say I'd need actual proof and not just conjecture. Not meant as an insult, just the truth.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by grindy

I explicitly said 'islamist' and not 'islamic'.

You explicitly said "scum." No one is trouncing on your right to criticize bad Muslims, so don't trounce on others' right to criticize the evil in other religions.

[windsock]

Originally Posted by 66Sexy

Is Socialism really that much of a norm here that to say being one is undesirable is an unpopular opinion?

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by windsock

Yeah my intention was not to paint you as an ally of Hitler. All I wanted to do was make clear my stance on him being evil. Sorry if I came across wrong.

Aside from that, I respect skepticism, however for me to take part in believing what you say I'd need actual proof and not just conjecture. Not meant as an insult, just the truth.

It's gonna take me a while, but I will link do my best to link you up.

[grindy]

Originally Posted by 66Sexy

He does have a bit of a thing about multculturalism, but I don't know how hardcore it is or if it's really moderate which will always come off as problematic regardless. I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea that multiculturalism has pitfalls. I mean will races ever truly be able to integrate or is there a point at which it becomes an uneasy integration that will never become truly color blind? I'm dubious that people with different skin colors or severe culture differences will ever be able to really set aside their differences to marry without issues. It's just so set in our instincts to maintain delineations.

I much prefer the melting pot approach to multiculturalism.
The latter is naive and leads to a multitude of problems.
I'm very much for immigration, but I think it should be controlled.
I don't give a **** about skin colour and think the so-called races should mix like crazy but I am very sceptical about a strong influx from people from conservative patriarchal cultures (who also embrace those cultural values) into more liberal countries. My experiences as an immigrant from the former to the latter might be playing a role.

[grindy]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

It's gonna take me a while, but I will link do my best to link you up.

Take it to PM.
You won't be posting your **** here.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by windsock

Is Socialism really that much of a norm here that to say being one is undesirable is an unpopular opinion?

Hitler was not a socialist. Saying he was one is stupid.

[Unitron]

I find it funny that socialists seem to be the ones to deny that Hitler was a socialist. The nazi party literally meant: National Socialist German Workers' Party

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by grindy

Take it to PM.
You won't be posting your **** here.

Dismissing ideas from the other end of your spectrum only serves to solidify ignorance.