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Old 10-02-2018, 10:39 PM   #14251 (permalink)
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people vote against their own self interests all the time

the major divide between Democrats and Republicans is on principles and culture not really taxes and jobs
Can you for once make a post that sounds like you have opinions of your own and not like you're regurgitating something you read or heard or watched?
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:41 PM   #14252 (permalink)
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Well, I kinda have two political philosophies which compete for my mind. I got the side that wants to believe in something that's the socialist side and sides with the working class and hopes that education on civics might actually make a difference. This I side with to preserve my sanity basically.

Then in my heart of hearts I believe nothing particularly good about humanity besides our propensity for being good with tools. I think humans are cretins who aren't far enough from a history of swinging from trees and flinging their poo to be trusted with running a global civilization of 7 billion people.

I can't truly commit to either philosophy because I can't be nihilistic enough to commit to the latter because it's an "existential dead end" (to quote OH) and I can't be bright and shiny enough to believe in the former. I get the feeling that this isn't at all an uncommon approach tbh but most people feel the need to side with optimism.
Humans are complicated and vastly differ from one another.
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:45 PM   #14253 (permalink)
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:48 PM   #14254 (permalink)
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dunno about this

for example, do anti-choice voters have a self-interest?
Religious ones, yes.

Edit: There's actually anti-abortion propaganda floating around saying that abortions are slowly extincting the human race, believe it or not.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:22 PM   #14255 (permalink)
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Not the human race. Black people. They think abortion is, in some ways, eugenics.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:23 PM   #14256 (permalink)
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Just drown fetuses in holy water during abortions so they go to "heaven". Win win.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:25 PM   #14257 (permalink)
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not really a vote on self-interest if it's on religious grounds, they think they're protecting babies yo
Unless they think that sinful behavior will bring God's holy wrath down upon us.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:27 PM   #14258 (permalink)
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Not the human race. Black people. They think abortion is, in some ways, eugenics.
I've never met a black person that thinks like this in my entire life.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:28 PM   #14259 (permalink)
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No. White people think that.
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