The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Lisnaholic]

^ Thanks for posting this interesting story, OH. It must be very worrying for Angela Merkel - especially the knowledge that a similar incident could occur again at any moment.
Sorry if it sounds pedantic, but isn't there a distinction between a Syrian and Iraqui guy being suspected of murder and Syria annexing a town? I wonder if you can join the dots for us without recourse to far-right propaganda.

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Originally Posted by Anteater

You and a few others here also have a difficult time wrapping your minds around a very simple fact: if you want to put Trump away for something, it would be helpful if his political opposition weren't complicit in similar crimes.

^ I think I have successfully wrapped my head around your idea, Anteater, and in fact it's absolutely true. Unfortunately, as others have said, it's legally irrelevent.

Many of Trumps cries, allegations and promises have borne no fruit at all when tested in irl: "Lock her up","Obama is phone-tapping me", "Who will pay for the wall? Mexico!" If I were a Trump supporter, I'd be wondering by now why nothing has come of these claims; I might even make a comparison about investigations into the Clintons and investigations conducted by Mueller. If I then found this score card on line, I suspect my loyalty to Trump would be tested to breaking point :-



^ If these stats are true, 12 years of investigating the Clintons have found nothing worth indicting on. Mueller's investigation has come up with a bunch of legal liabilities after just a year. More importantly, Mueller's investigation is throwing light on the real and present danger of continued Russian meddling.

(My apologies for posting a photo that says, "Enough said" at the bottom. That's a very rude and arrogant way to contribute to a discussion imo.)

[Anteater]

Everything I've brought up about Clinton is in reference to the 2016 election, which is the same time frame that Mueller is investigating. Benghazi is too long ago to be relevant unfortunately.

[Frownland]

Clinton wasn't found guilty in the Benghazi investigation, therefore she could never be found guilty of money laundering. Quickmafs

[Lisnaholic]

^ Well, I'm certainly not saying that. It would be ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Many of Trumps cries, allegations and promises have borne no fruit at all when tested in irl: "Lock her up","Obama is phone-tapping me", "Who will pay for the wall? Mexico!" If I were a Trump supporter, I'd be wondering by now why nothing has come of these claims; ....

^ In part, I'm saying that I've heard about HC's alleged crimes from a source I've learned not to trust:-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9535f48e67e7 = President Trump has made 4, 299 false claims in 558 days.

I'm just a villager in the fable about the boy who cried wolf; no longer taking Trump's claims seriously. Goes ditto for many GOP members, starting with Sean Spicer...

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/01/eur...ntl/index.html

How surprising that many Germans don’t want to be annexed by Syria.

Link not working.

[Anteater]

The New York Times - Agents Tried to Flip Russian Oligarchs. The Fallout Spread to Trump.

I'm gonna guess it went a little something like this...

"Oh hai FBI, сука блять!"

"Hey we need your help to go after the Russian mob."

"Sure I could help with that."

"Also, can you become our informant and help us entrap the Trump campaign so it makes it look like they colluded with Putin?"

"No that sounds illegal."

"WE WILL DESTROY YOUR LIFFFEEEEEE!!!!!!1111"

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Anteater

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/us/politics/deripaska-ohr-steele-fbi.html"]

Do you spend you entire days trying to find **** that will deflect from what's going on with your boy and his hood?

You never post about the legal stuff via Indictments, and plea deals, that actually damages Trump and his posse. Only stuff that you feel deflects. Why is that Ant?

In other news:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/01/polit...nts/index.html

[Lilja]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/01/eur...ntl/index.html

How surprising that many Germans don’t want to be annexed by Syria.

I don't know about being annexed but everything that is happening there really isn't that surprising. Even in Sweden, there was a march in Stockholm just last week by the Nordic Resistance Movement (nazis) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2uSNhHDVag

The whole thing in Germany with the German being killed is just fuel for the fire of people being angered over the whole immigration issue. I think that in the end, people are mad because of the benifits alloted to the refugees in terms of money, housing, etc.

I saw a Nazi just the other day at the train station (had Nordic resistance symbols all over and such). Honestly, I should be mad that this is happening. But I didn't say a word and just walked on by. And that is what many are doing in Germany, Sweden, etc. Just walking by because we are just tired of it all. And that is how I think, acceptance starts. And it is scary.

[OccultHawk]

You don’t let in a million immigrants from a dysfunctional culture in a very short time without getting some backlash. Merkel has overstepped. It’s an unfair burden on the working poor in Germany. It’s also an affront to their culture and they should have been given a say beforehand.

I think that in the end, people are mad because of the benifits alloted to the refugees in terms of money, housing, etc.

They should be. That’s government assistance they’ll never see.

[Lilja]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

You don’t let in a million immigrants from a dysfunctional culture in a very short time without getting some backlash. Merkel has overstepped. It’s an unfair burden on the working poor in Germany. It’s also an affront to their culture and they should have been given a say beforehand.



They should be. That’s government assistance they’ll never see.

I think Merkel was trying to change Germany's image to a more positive one in terms of welcming refugees. But, like Sweden, there was an unchecked stream of refugees and neither Germany nor Sweden could support them all and continue to have a wide open door to them.

I think Sweden's next election is going to be really interesting because SD (Sweden Democrats) are getting alot of support here and they want to take away all these benifits that the refugees have gotten/curb migration/take away Dual Citizenship/etc. It's an interesting time.